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[–]Alduin 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah pretty much. I always assume any socialist is either stupid or evil. 99% of the time they're stupid, but more often than you would expect they're actually both.

Take for example wizzwizz here... "Oh TRUE socialism has never been implemented." Which is really another way of saying "If I were the benevolent dictator everything would have turned out much better." Because no system is ever going to be 100% true to any one economic philosophy, unless it's a tiny tiny group of people on a remote island somewhere.

[–]useless_aether[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

it you are not a liberal at 20, you have no heart,
if you are not a conservative at 40, you have no brain

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)


[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If I say I don't know if I'm stupid or evil, what does that make me, and does that also apply to capitalists, aka exploiters for gains?

No system has ever been 100% capitalist either. "Too big to fail" was socialism to support the banks, also meaning "too small to succeed" for the rest of us. The military is pure socialism, and the US has the biggest, so...

Don't crap on socialism unless you really know what you're talking about. Socialism, like science, is methodology process/tool, and it can be used for good (ie. Sweden, Canada, etc) or evil (ie. Mao, Stalin, etc.). Socialism is as critically necessary as capitalism - in balance. To demonize it is naive and buying the propaganda, almost equivalent to promoting totalitarianism over freedom, or inversely completed lawlessness over totalitarianism.

[–]Alduin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nope, we absolutely do not need the two "in balance". They are opposites. One is freedom and prosperity, the other is poverty and oppression. You can't say "oh we need a little bit of poverty and oppression to make the freedom and prosperity work". No. The freedom and prosperity works despite the evil machinations of people who want to control others, because it's a powerful idea that very apparently lifts everyone out of poverty, rich and poor alike. Everyone in the world can see that capitalism feeds the masses, socialism doesn't.

And to the extent they are mixed, socialism is the parasite. Not some complimentary tool in the kit. "Oh we just need a little socialism", is what stupid people who believe their enemies say. It inhibits everything it's supposed to help and more.

Now, I'm not saying there's no role for government. Build infrastructure, settle disputes, etc. But distributing largess from the public treasury and forcing people to pay for it down the road should not be part of their duties.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)


NEITHER are freedom and prosperity. And BOTH can be totalitarian.

LOL Capitalism doesn't feed the masses.

Big government is always the problem, everywhere, without exception, regardless of labels and ideologies.

Poverty is not exclusive to capitalists nor socialists and/or their countries.

If you want to get rid of socialism in America, then start with the military and police. Don't take from the many (taxes) under threat of violence and give it to the military and police, whether we like it or not, under the name of "democracy" or the tyranny of the status quo brainwashed many.

Stop funding the military and let the market demands dictate how much money they get. You'd see a MASSIVE change.

Socialism, like capitalism, can be parasitic - and they can also work in combination to be parasitic. "Too big to fail" was capitalists using socialism to bail out the banks parasitically.