The FARMER PROTEST is GROWING OUT OF CONTROL (16:39) ~ The Pleb 🇨🇦 Reporter by Fuck_magnora7 in DecentralizeAllThings

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This website's default subs are PATHETIC.

Fuck u/magnora7.

I'm looking for an matrix server by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

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I don't like certain implementation choices of matrix, I prefer emails and xmpp so I can use gpg manually....I don't like electron...too expensive in resources..I prefer a program with few, essential functions

I'm looking for an matrix server by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see that Jami has finally added group chats / conferences. This is a significant improvement from the last time I tried it so it's worth testing it again. I'll test it with you if you want.

However, I really recommend Matrix over Jami regardless. It has a lot more features such as a public channel list.

This page provides a list of more lenient servers. His concerns are similar to yours. If an admin is caught banning users or channels without prior notice, he takes it off his recommended list.

I'm looking for an matrix server by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

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I'll move on to Jami

I'm looking for an matrix server by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]chadwickofwv 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then the answer is to host your own server, with your own rules. Other servers can ban you from posting on them, but nobody can ban you from your server, and you can still communicate with users on other servers. You can also invite people to yours if you want.

I'm looking for an matrix server by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

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let's say that I have seen the rules of some servers... and some are very restricted and very opinionable... I don't want to create channels... but I like to discuss and express my opinions in a civilized manner... the real problem is being banned, this leads to the loss of your data and contacts

I'm looking for an matrix server by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What kind of censorship would there be on Matrix to begin with? Are you afraid you'll get banned from entire servers, or is that your experience? You can make your own channel and it should be fine regardless.

Self-Host Mastodon with Docker Compose by cyberhost in DecentralizeAllThings

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Two layers of shit

Missouri Bill Would Prohibit State Enforcement of Federal Red Flag Laws by Drewski in DecentralizeAllThings

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Lemmy v0.19.0 Release - Instance blocking, Scaled sort, and Federation Queue by Drewski in DecentralizeAllThings

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Yes, I also use kbin.social which federates with Lemmy instances.

Lemmy v0.19.0 Release - Instance blocking, Scaled sort, and Federation Queue by Drewski in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lemmy is new to me, but it reminds me of Saidit. Do you use it?

Decentralised Data For a Decentralised Future by Drewski in DecentralizeAllThings

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The Fediverse is Already Dead by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

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It's pretty strange to me that they complain about right-wing extremists. Almost all I find on things like Lemmy and Mastodon are left-leaning posts.

Ajnabee - An Omegle-inspired web application that enables users to engage in anonymous video chats with random peers. by Drewski in DecentralizeAllThings

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Sounds horrible, thanks.

Ajnabee - An Omegle-inspired web application that enables users to engage in anonymous video chats with random peers. by Drewski in DecentralizeAllThings

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Lol. Fag circle jerk.

Ajnabee - An Omegle-inspired web application that enables users to engage in anonymous video chats with random peers. by Drewski in DecentralizeAllThings

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Wasent omegal just a bunch of guys jerking it?

Web3: Decentralization is the Future by UBERGheist in DecentralizeAllThings

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Qortal is what you're looking for, though many elements remain an ongoing work in progress it is already up and running.

For me, I'm waiting for when it can run totally independent from the current internet. I have no problem with it being on the net, but it needs to be able to run without it. This CAN be done, via wireless protocols where literally your current WiFi router can be part of the net. You never see the encrypted data passing through your PC but you become a 'node'.

An entire internet of such nodes, including more powerful transceivers in remoter areas, is perfectly feasible. The developers are very open to the idea but didn't see it as the same urgent need as I did, so I lost interest in the project.

What we need is a system where the normal ISP or domain name servers cannot shut you down, where all you need is a modem, electricity and a computer/smartphone. Qortal can do that, but they're too busy fucking around polishing the stuff they've done, instead of getting on with the urgent (in my opinion) need to offer an alternative to the gov and corporate-controlled net we're using right now.

Yeah yeah error, I'll refresh before sending, fuckysite

Web3: Decentralization is the Future by UBERGheist in DecentralizeAllThings

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Lots of Web3 tech uses centralized systems to bootstrap and "later" (read: never) they implement the distributed version.

Is there any Web3 tech that is actually good and done?

I am not even sure what the point is of Web3 tech (I am not saying this as if I don't understand the technology, because I do), if the general public probably doesn't even know what web 2.0 was about.

Web3: Decentralization is the Future by UBERGheist in DecentralizeAllThings

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In general, Web3 is not synonymous with the digital IDs being pushed by many governments but its fair to say there could be crossover as not every use case for blockchain/web3 is as decentralized or "democratic" as it is often presented to be. For the most part privacy, transparency and accountability are overarching themes though

Web3: Decentralization is the Future by UBERGheist in DecentralizeAllThings

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Does it require digital User IDs

Disrupt the Government by pijk in DecentralizeAllThings

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and Plato basically said the same, no system is perfect but a monarchy is best.

Transgender mass murderer Audrey Hale's manifest is full of anti-white hate She killed white children in a Christian school for the color of their skin by munawar in DecentralizeAllThings

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And the lefties are all butt hurt it was a LGBTQ+ lesbian that did the shooting and not a white guy.

There Have Been 57 Peaceful Secessions Since 1776 by Drewski in DecentralizeAllThings

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There Have Been 57 Peaceful Secessions Since 1776 by Drewski in DecentralizeAllThings

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Heinz ?

Disrupt the Government by pijk in DecentralizeAllThings

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Basically, yeah.

Disrupt the Government by pijk in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's like how Milton Friedman was against the Federal Reserve and thought it should be abolished, but if it wasn't going to be he had views and ideas on how to improve it.

Disrupt the Government by pijk in DecentralizeAllThings

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He addresses that in the last line:

Monarchy is good, but even better: Can you build a high trust decentralized society?

He's basically saying that a decentralized society would be best but if that's not possible then letting a capable person like Musk take over the current system would be good enough.

Disrupt the Government by pijk in DecentralizeAllThings

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I was agreeing with his suggestions about decentralized solutions to bad government monopolies. Then I got to this section:

Protection: AI should be able to make great progress here. An intelligent home security system. Privacy in public is stupid. There’s only so many criminals, why aren’t we tracking them all in a public database. Why aren’t we tracking everyone in a public database? You do understand the government and large corporations are tracking you, why should only they have the privilege?

No thanks, I don't want to give up my privacy and track other people's private activities to stay "safe". I think decentralized protection strategies can work, in the form of neighborhood watches, mutual defense networks, private security, militias, etc but not having AI scrutinize our every move.

I’ve been in favor of an Elon monarchy for a while vs the existing system.

You went from decentralized alternatives to government monopolies to a tech overlord? Come on dude...

Nostr, a simple protocol for decentralizing social media that has a chance of working by hfxB0oyA in DecentralizeAllThings

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I used it but it get being laggy so I had to stop using it. But When I use it again my test for free speech will be to mention a coin I think is better than bitcoin and see if I get shadowbanned or banned. Most of the time, I am testing platforms to see the bounds of what they censor before I can recommend it to friends

Nostr, a simple protocol for decentralizing social media that has a chance of working by hfxB0oyA in DecentralizeAllThings

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to me nostrplebs are the best

Nostr, a simple protocol for decentralizing social media that has a chance of working by hfxB0oyA in DecentralizeAllThings

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Yeah, I just came across it and haven't tried it out yet. It looks like they've got several clients from different devs, so hopefully someone will streamline the follow process at some point.

Nostr, a simple protocol for decentralizing social media that has a chance of working by hfxB0oyA in DecentralizeAllThings

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I made a set of keys a while back, but never got the hang of using it. All the clients I tried were fairly complicated, and I never managed to properly follow anyone. It's something to keep on eye on, but not ready yet for prime time IMO.

Decentralization is a zero-sum game - the idea of complete decentralization is a goal that can never be achieved in reality by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

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It's a principle, not a maximization technique. Anyway, I don't actually value the opinions of statists, who believe in magic. Statists are like Creationist retards: even if you weren't totally incapable of even understanding your opposition, totally refuting evolution still wouldn't make retarded Creationists garbage real. Statism is a death cult and cannot succeed. Even if muhAnarky is achievable in some ideal form, that fact about the state will never change.

How to Kill a Decentralised Network by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]R51 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

why the fk would facebook join a platform dedicated to being exatcly not facebook

Decentralization is a zero-sum game - the idea of complete decentralization is a goal that can never be achieved in reality by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]twolanterns 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

which is why 'complete' DEcentralization is not endorse by that many

theory is fine, practicalities is better -- which is why simple absolutes is not a productive way to argue.

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Decentralization is a zero-sum game - the idea of complete decentralization is a goal that can never be achieved in reality by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Decentralisation just means power moves hands, it doesn't mean you get the power.

Power depends on the individuals involved.

Almost everyone has more power than they think. Schemers don't like to be exposed, so a little but of local exposure can go much farther.

It's easier to identify and institute a remedy on the local level.

Decentralization is a zero-sum game - the idea of complete decentralization is a goal that can never be achieved in reality by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

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That is a silly argument. Decentralization breaks up power. From one idiot in DC to at least 50 idiots across the nations, and several thousands idiots per state.

Some will get it right, and some will get it wrong.

The locals are less insulated from, I dunno, let’s say people with guns, than the people in DC.

Decentralized police, de centralized food. It’s all the way to go.

Decentralization is a zero-sum game - the idea of complete decentralization is a goal that can never be achieved in reality by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But that is still better because this gives every one the ability to fight back locally. You only have to compete within your own community. This is much better.

Decentralization is a zero-sum game - the idea of complete decentralization is a goal that can never be achieved in reality by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not if you decentralize completely.

Decentralisation

I see that you're caving in to American spelling. =)

Decentralization is a zero-sum game - the idea of complete decentralization is a goal that can never be achieved in reality by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say look at local politics and see if you think those people would be any better running your life than central government politicians. Decentralisation just means power moves hands, it doesn't mean you get the power.

Decentralization is a zero-sum game - the idea of complete decentralization is a goal that can never be achieved in reality by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Decentralization

Decentralization is a zero-sum game - the idea of complete decentralization is a goal that can never be achieved in reality

Zero-sum-game? it's not a zero sum gain. Diffusing power amongst competing groups restricts control of all parties.

Decentralization in the extreme has diminishing returns, but that's a different conversation.

Decentralization is a zero-sum game - the idea of complete decentralization is a goal that can never be achieved in reality by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Centralization in inherently risky for anyone who prioritizes freedom.

Do you think decentralization is an unreasonable goal?

Oregon Liberals Risk an Ugly Legacy as Another County Joins 'Greater Idaho' Movement by Drewski in DecentralizeAllThings

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How to Kill a Decentralised Network by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

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I never liked the fediverse because it's full of shit libs

How to Kill a Decentralised Network by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

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Something similar was with Skype. It was not using servers, but direct connections from computer to computer, end-to-end encryption.

When Microsoft took it over, it was converted to a slow, server based system with tracking/surveillance and advertising.

How to Kill a Decentralised Network by [deleted] in DecentralizeAllThings

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Step 1: Build a decentralized social network.

Step 2: Let things run their natural course.

You cannot buy a decentralised network!

Perhaps one cannot simply buy the entire network, but that doesn't mean the network can't be manipulated heavily, or parts of it being bought. Just look at nodes blocking eachother, and all the drama around that.

But there’s another way: make it irrelevant.

This is correct. Dedicated commercial efforts can have the opportunity, funding, motivation, and leadership to accomplish what the cat-herders can't.

... various stories ...

Interesting read

if Meta joins the Fediverse, Meta will be the only one winning

Absolutely. Lets game-plan this. Millions of people are dissatisifed with Reddit. So they start migrating to Lemmy over time. But lemmy sucks (for reasons), and only works at scale with giant infastructure. So people use Facebook to access Lemmy.

But then Facebook also has full control over what Facebook-lemmy users can see or do. Facebook can also choose which nodes it blocks, or threaten nodes that they must censor certain content or be blocked. Facebook can also break the protocol for everyone else, and everyone else suffers the most because FB has the most users and everyone else looks broken.

Then FB cuts off the connection one day, and Lemmy dies overnight.

New version of Bastyon desktop app now includes full Tor integration. by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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is it in electron?

In 1999, we created the original Freenet ... Building on this legacy, we present Freenet 2023— a drop-in decentralized replacement for the world wide web. This new Freenet is analogous to a global shared computer, a platform for sophisticated decentralized software systems. by neolib in DecentralizeAllThings

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It seems there is nothing to try yet, this project is at quite early stage:

We're working toward our first working prototype, right now you can play with our SDK[1], and learn about how to build decentralized software[2]. You can check out our roadmap[3] with realtime estimates of when we will hit various milestones.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36012054

The guy (Ian Clarke) is pretty well known by his original Freenet project though:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet

About UBiOnline | The Blockchain-based SocialFi Network (Social Finance) by Dinojames100 in DecentralizeAllThings

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It is a decentralized social media platform, where users have more control over their data and interactions. They can interact with each other directly, without the need for a centralized intermediary that has access to their data and can control the flow of information.

Good Health is for EVERYONE (37:48) ~ Richard Vobes by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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In the UK.

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UBi Online Blog - Best Crypto Based Decentralised Social Media Network by Dinojames100 in DecentralizeAllThings

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A Decentralized Social Media Network is a platform that allows users to communicate and share content without relying on a centralized authority or server. One of the main advantages of a decentralized social media network is that it provides users with greater control over their data. A decentralized social media network has the potential to revolutionize the way we communicate and share information online.

UBi Online - Best Crypto Based Decentralised Social Media Network by Dinojames100 in DecentralizeAllThings

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Sounds awesome. What happens if they seize the domain name?

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Good feedback. Yes, an aesthetic and ergonomic GUI is important, regardless of the protocols. Perhaps there are some FLOSS interfaces that can be improved upon.

I wondered if Snort was an acronym, but it turns out one Snort is not a social media platform nor uses Nostr.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snort_(software)

But It looks like there's another Snort, among other apps.
https://nostrclients.webflow.io

It might be neat if addons or apps like Lemmy, Movim, OpenCola, etc could use the Internet, TOR, Nostr, torrents, and other protocols interchangeably and/or simultaneously - whatever it takes to get the info across securely.

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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What's important to me is how it looks. I looked at one of the web frontends and it was comment-centric, so the frontpage displays comments without their context, which is a batshit insane idea. That was Snort. Maybe the title is a reference to how the creator snorts too much coke. The other one I tried was Coracle, which was loading Javascript forever, and in that sense it's Gab Plus. HongKongPoopy does a much better job assessing the technical aspects, I care about a web client that looks good and is robust, I'm not seeing that here.

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Typo: Tasker of one.

DEF CON 30 - John Midgley - OpenCola The AntiSocial Network (37:00) ~ DEFCONConference by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Good to know. Thanks.

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Interesting.

My biggest concern is Jack Dorsey, establishment shill, likely in there to set up or at understand the fundamental or inherent weaknesses that can be exploited later. Like what you've thought of.

Naturally there will be critical eyes all over this trying to find and/or expose exploits. It would be folly to openly build something that's fucked over from the beginning. Yet, Android exists.

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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/u/Jackorobot, master of none.

I am a master of everything, but only one thing at a time

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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/u/Jackorobot, master of none.

DEF CON 30 - John Midgley - OpenCola The AntiSocial Network (37:00) ~ DEFCONConference by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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It seems like a cool project. The UI looks ugly, though, I hope they'll work on that. Also, in order for it to get traction, a lot of people will have to install a browser extension and add each other's tokens manually, that seems really hard to bring about. And it lacks groups with permalinks. So the networking would still have to happen outside of OpenCola. I can only see this existing as a compliment to other communication platforms, not as something truly foundational. Maybe I overlooked something, though.

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Oh I didn't think to get the transcript, I'll do that. It's just me and the manifestation of my ADHD. I can't multitask, I have two modes, hyperfocused and distracted, and reading forces me to actively rather than passively absorb it which makes it much easier for my neurotic auto-pilot to engage focus mode

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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The cross-blocking is only up to the end-user, as it should be - not the tribes or shitty admins.

I'll take a deeper look at what they are doing, but the part that gives me concern is the clients apps. These client apps could conceivably blacklist certain relays (content nodes) that they don't approve of, with each app interfacing their infrastructure only showing you approved bits of the network. The client app would have to give the user this control, as user is not itself part of the network just a keypair. Now I suspect they did this because it does anonymize you and prevent you from broadcasting your IP, as nobody connects to you, they connect to the relay, but the client app idea has some things theyd need to protect against to prevent this from becoming a dumpster fire where you need a different app to access each relay, and I haven't gotten deep enough into their design to see if this is addressed in any way

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Read the auto-transcript of the discussion.
Or learn to play it at 2.5x speed while washing the dishes or something - very akin to reading except your hands and eyes are free to do other things.

I'd think of this more as an infrastructure than a social media 'app'

Exactly. As Edward Snowden was quoted video, rather than a silo, Nostr is a river.

this can solve all the problems they think it can

They admit it's not perfect. But it's a step in the right direction. One limitation they admit is that there is not a simple plug-n-play client that most people can use. Maybe you can work on that? An app, module, addon, whatever. Simpler or complex. Like all things IMO ideally it would have 4 modes: 1) plug-n-play, 2) basic, 3) advanced, 4) expert.

disjointed clusterfuck

The cross-blocking is only up to the end-user, as it should be - not the tribes or shitty admins.

I fear complex chaos bloat too. Not sure if/how there are ways to categorize/organize/search/sort/tag/vote content, individually or collectively.

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Yes and no.

There are islands of access in the Federation. The Woke, the Deplorables, etc. They do not share info. Thus folks are limited by their tribes and shitty admins.

Nostr doesn't discriminate and lets the end user filter as they see fit.

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Zapped = past tense
Zapping = present tense

You can cut the tension with a zap.

New version of Bastyon desktop app now includes full Tor integration. by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Yes. Agreed.
But I don't think there's a single solution as it would be a single point of failure.

IMO we need to embrace all the protocols: Internet, TOR, IPFS, Bit+Web Torrents, Nostr, etc etc etc.

If software were more modular and/or accepted bridges we could have modules/bridges that interface with different protocols and apps that could be turned on/off by the user and their preferences. Maybe a new standalone bridge app would suffice. (For example, you could post to SaidIt and Twitter and Mastodon and Qortal the same content via Internet, TOR, and Nostr.)

Check this out...
/s/DecentralizeAllThings/comments/amhx/nostr_the_decentralized_future_of_social_media/

Wish I could code, among many other things. But I can lead by example. I'm going to start by building the community, first. I'll do a rough draft of goals, a charter, roadmap, guides/rules, etc and then open it up to folks to participate here on SaidIt. I've always wanted to have more than one option running so no option is off the table. Censorship is coming fast and hard. Stay tuned on /s/Cassy, new stuff coming soon.

FYI: Ironically, Telegram is NOT secure. Signal is better (imperfect).

Also, I've had/used Bastyon, Float, Friendevu, Librti, Session, etc. But rarely used them. We need aggregation bridges for these solutions.

Also also, feel free to tell me what alias you'd like to use on http://Projex.Wiki and I'll create the account and give you the password that you should change.

New version of Bastyon desktop app now includes full Tor integration. by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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It's not enough, as it runs on the current internet.

Qortal is an entirely new internet. A totally decentralized internet.

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Interesting. Should I sue? /s

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Yet another brand new protocol that's 90% the same as activitypub. Yawn.

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Briefly looked at their documents here https://nostr.com/ you know how I feel about videos

I'd have to spend more time looking at their docs to understand completely how this is supposed to work....but I'll try to explain the high-level overview.

Its P2P...sort of. A 'user' is a just a public/private asymmetric key pair rather than the 'peer'. You use the keypair to access a client app, of which apparently there are many different versions created by different people (i.e. different apps). The clients connect to 'relays' which can be run by anyone, and act as the physical location where the data is published to. The client interacts with the relays and fetches the shit you want

I'd think of this more as an infrastructure than a social media 'app', I'd have to spend more time looking at this to tell you if I think this can solve all the problems they think it can, or whether this relationship between user/client/relay would result in a disjointed clusterfuck like Mastodon and the decentralverse does where the nodes all cross-block each other.

Nostr: The decentralized future of social media? (1:41:17) ~ ReasonTV by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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DEF CON 30 - John Midgley - OpenCola The AntiSocial Network (37:00) ~ DEFCONConference by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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I'm simply trying to get informed whether it's legit or not and if it has a future.

So which one goddamn thing do you want to get right? Saddit is clearly not it.

Doing it right means sharing the load. The ideas (work) proposed are not for a single hero. They are proposed potential solutions. Or maybe you'd prefer we do nothing, lay down, and just wait to die.

Not sure if you're lazy or a coward - or both. Or a fed?

I don't even know if you've watched the presentation. Your non-comment speaks volumes about nothingness.

DEF CON 30 - John Midgley - OpenCola The AntiSocial Network (37:00) ~ DEFCONConference by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Can't we do just one goddamn thing and do it right? I'm stressed over the amount of work you have proposed in your 1 comment. So no comment.

DEF CON 30 - John Midgley - OpenCola The AntiSocial Network (37:00) ~ DEFCONConference by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Show notes:

Oct 20, 2022
The internet, as it stands today, is not a very trustworthy environment, as evidenced by the numerous headlines of companies abusing personal data and activity. This is not really surprising since companies are responsible for optimizing revenue, which is often at odds with user benefit. The result of these incentives has produced or exacerbated significant problems: tech silos, misinformation, privacy abuse, concentration of wealth, the attention economy, etc. We built OpenCola, free and open source, as an alternative to existing big-tech applications. It puts users in control of their personal activity and the algorithms that shape the flow of data to them. We believe that this solution, although simple, can significantly mitigate the challenges facing the Internet.

DEF CON 30 - John Midgley - OpenCola The AntiSocial Network (37:00) ~ DEFCONConference by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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This seems like so much more than a social network - it's also an archiving platform, with a socnet on top.

Would this be a good way to openly backup SaidIt and all the content it links to? I'd imagine it would need to have a several instances going: 1) current posts and archiving what's linked, 2) current comments and what's linked, and going back chronologically back to the dawn of SaidIt with 3) posts and linked, and 4) comments and linked. Importantly it would be good to know what content has since been censored, and figure out how to automatically or manually fill it in. For example I have a lot of Know More News archived but it's long since been censored off YouTube.

I think it might be good for other truth-seeking news sources and aggregation sites too - as well as being nice if you could rig it to scrape Facebook/Messenger, Internet Archive, and others too.

It would also be ideal if we could torrent/IPFS databases to share scraped sites' profiles/accounts with each other. This would likely require a standardization and verification system.

Also, build moar bridges!

/u/being-poisoned, /u/HongKongPhooey, /u/LarrySwinger2 - thoughts?

OpenCola - The Antisocial Network by hfxB0oyA in DecentralizeAllThings

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Indeed!

It sounds neat. Worth investigating. I also like the origins with the OpenCola (drink).

OpenCola - The Antisocial Network by hfxB0oyA in DecentralizeAllThings

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/u/JasonCarswell - this might be if particular interest to you.

New version of Bastyon desktop app now includes full Tor integration. by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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I'm a brand new noob but I'm loving what I see, as it's designed so nobody can mess with it, take over, censor etc. There's a telegram group:

https://t.me/qortal_official

New version of Bastyon desktop app now includes full Tor integration. by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Yep. I get it.

New version of Bastyon desktop app now includes full Tor integration. by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Do you use it?
Have you got any insights to share?
I might even find their support group(s) for help to get an instance set up. Still don't know enough about it.

New version of Bastyon desktop app now includes full Tor integration. by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Yep. I wouldn't trust TOR. Certainly not for anything sketchy, if so inclined.

But, with spare time and energy and caution, I would prepare to utilize it, like CB radios, stockpiling books, and other alternative communications, in case the Internet is stolen from us.

New version of Bastyon desktop app now includes full Tor integration. by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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Qortal.

Join Qortal ffs!

New version of Bastyon desktop app now includes full Tor integration. by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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That’s a great point. Just like every country would want to control the media, but you only see the CIA planting stories all over the world. The US is a massive economy, number 1 to be exact. And lots of countries are under its thumb.

Tor is a glowie hang out. It was made by glowies for glowies. You would be extremely naive to think it is safe.

If you have information that is so sensitive that you need to split it up between several thousand computers, and let it filter to another computer, then you don’t want to use tor. You should not feel safe on tor.

Use encryption.

Tor is good for dodging companies harvesting your data. And to not be identified online.

It is not a great wat to hide from the government. O

New version of Bastyon desktop app now includes full Tor integration. by JasonCarswellDAT Mod in DecentralizeAllThings

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The thing is every country would want to control "90% of the nodes" - Tor is being used all over the world.

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Just letting you know, TOR was made by the Navy. It has been suggested that they have always had a way to decrypt TOR. The main way it is perceived is that they own like 90% of the nodes.

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