Off-Topic and Low-Effort CW Thread for the Week of July 20, 2020OT/LE

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[–]simonp 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Request for productive input.

A friend of mine is starting on a passion project (or possibly a startup? I'm unclear) on the subject of "creating productive, pro-social discussion spaces in order to encourage a return to reasonableness, moderation, and peaceful disagreement". He's been asking around for peoples input regarding different design decisions and such that could be made that would encourage such things. Does anybody have any strong thoughts on this subject?

I'll share what he's come up with so far, but I want to hear all of your input first because I don't want to bias the brainstorming

[–]lord-kril 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is going to sound weird coming from me, based on my ideological preferences, but if he wants results: immediately eject anyone engaging in bad-faith shit without mercy or appeal, including concern-trolling, entryism, etc.

[–]Lazar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

My experience with "concern trolling" is that it's usually a charge leveled by progressives to enforce their echo chambers. After one of my old forums went aggressively woke, anybody who fell short of total enthusiasm for the ever-changing party line was condemned as a fascist concern troll.

[–]simonp 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Concern trolling is usually extremely obvious. You can tell it a mile away from how passive-aggressive it comes off

[–]Lazar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean your experience might differ from mine; I'm just a lot more familiar with bad faith accusations of the tactic than with the tactic itself. For me it's in the same category as "Russian bots" or "sealioning"; my default is to assume that the person being described as a concern troll is the sensible one.