BBC presenter Lisa Shaw died of AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine complications

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[–]jet199[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's mostly women under 40 dying from clots.

Of course another cause of clots is birth control, which is pretty much only taken by women under 40.

Likely this is increasing their risk of bad side effects from the vaccine but no one is ever going to speak out about how dangerous birth control is to women. They'd prefer to undermine the vaccine before they did that.

[–]infocom6502 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Men over 50 too. They have higher blood pressure, and the problem is right side heart failure or strokes.

[–]GST893 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

That's unfortunate. Maybe if she had been better informed about the risks that the clot shot posed she might just be alive. A lot of good all that trust in the government did her.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

to be fair you'd have to be a scientist or a journalist to have the training and the ability to access and assess the data, and to see through weasel words used by public health officials.

[–]Alan_Crowe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Given her age, she probably grew up in a world where the appropriate safety factor was around two. Being bugged to get vaccinated? The disease is probably half as dangerous as the government says and the vaccine twice as dangerous.

Living today in clown world, the government overstates the dangers of the disease five-fold and only admits to 20% of bad reactions to the virus. Maybe she was just slow to update her propaganda safety factor from two to five.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

100 people die of COVID every day in the UK.

The risks are much lower getting the shot than not getting it, if you're well informed.

[–]Node 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

At one point, doctors who determine and list the cause of death were ordered to list the death as a "Covid-19 Death" if they were even suspected to have been exposed to the virus, even without tests or evidence. People being shot to death, or dying in a vehicle collision, were listed as dying of Covid.

Numbers coming from those people are extremely suspect. You would know this.

But I believe the earth is overpopulated by 5 to 7 billion, so anyone believing in the hoax should go ahead and have all the substances injected.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

At one point, doctors who determine and list the cause of death were ordered to list the death as a "Covid-19 Death" if they were even suspected to have been exposed to the virus, even without tests or evidence. People being shot to death, or dying in a vehicle collision, were listed as dying of Covid.

At what point was that, in the UK?

Numbers coming from those people are extremely suspect. You would know this.

They compare well enough with excess deaths.

But I believe the earth is overpopulated by 5 to 7 billion, so anyone believing in the hoax should go ahead and have all the substances injected.

I don't understand you point here.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If it does turn out to be a cull of the excess, you'd want to skim the higher IQ off the general population before beginning the cull. The covid hoax is a great filtering mechanism. People dumb enough to "just take the jab" are basically volunteering to join the cull demographic.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At one point, doctors who determine and list the cause of death were ordered to list the death as a "Covid-19 Death" if they were even suspected to have been exposed to the virus, even without tests or evidence. People being shot to death, or dying in a vehicle collision, were listed as dying of Covid.

At what point was that?

[–]GST893 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

Got a source to back up that claim?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

UK Covid deaths average 100 a day with fears of rise when schools return

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[–]GST893 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

You cite a propaganda rag like the Guardian and expect me to take you seriously? Sorry, I don't ingest disinfo like that. Try again.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Socks alt confirmed

[–]GST893 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Who is socks' alt me or actually?

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Actually

[–]GST893 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

How did you confirm that the two accounts are related?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The guardian is good journalism. Their ownership structure protects then from the native advertising you see in most media.

What you're mistaking for propaganda is reality, without the paid for bullshit you're used to, and apparently have come to believe.

And as you can see from the other two links, they are correctly reporting the COVID deaths.

[–]GST893 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Did someone craft that script for you or do you produce your own work? It's almost like you believe your own bullshit. Or do you get paid to do that? .06¢ a reply, right?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

UK is averaging 100 covid deaths per day.

Who the fuck do you think would pay me to tell you, and only you, that?

[–]GST893 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

This ain't no dm you ponce, so no, you are not just spouting this utter bullshit to just me. Your mindless parroting of msm talking points puts you right at the top of the npc pyramid. So you can take your "oh no 100 people a day die WITH covid in the UK!" alarmist bullshit and tuck it back up in your loose prolapsed asshole where it belongs.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I linked to three sources for that 100 per day figure, only one of which was media.

You've offered zero response. No source for what you think the correct figure is, and no other speciation why you dream that those numbers are wrong.

You reckon that some of the 10 people who upvoted this thread are coming back to check up on it 2 days later?

It's possible that 1 person other than us is reading this, bit not likely.

The vehicles for paid commentary are Facebook and Twitter. You know this as well as I. Be more honest:

Your ad-hom argument that I'm a shill isn't just pathetic name calling target than addressing the facts, it's also blantantly false.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Horrayyy

[–]thefirststone 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Weirdly vague. They don't say what the treatment is, just that the recommended one was followed. And they don't say whether the hemorrhage is specifically a result of clots, but they start talking about clots.

I suspect some of these cases could be avoided by prophylactic mild anti-clotting medicines, which some have used on their own. But any treatments or prevention is utterly antithetical to these people.

[–]infocom6502 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The UK has a multi billion pound contract out for anti-clotting medication; supply start date I believe was start October.

From start of investigation to public release of the result apparently was months. Lisa left the world end May, shortly after receiving first shot of AZ mid May (afaik she wasn't in any sort of at-risk group for the SARS2).

21 May just weeks after receiving her first vaccine dose and an investigation into its part in her death was launched.