Johns Hopkins: COVID Has Had No Effect On US Death Rate | Libertarian News

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[–]RM-Goetbbels 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

COVID 19 has saved 300,000 lives this year!

The numbers don't lie.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Why are you just straight up making up numbers?

[–]RM-Goetbbels 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

Why not? The government is.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Lol, you don't like the actual numbers so now the CDC is making them up? Pretty crazy, because I thought that they just compiled the stats sent to them by the states. So which states do you think are sending them inflated numbers? Or are you saying it's none of them and the CDC is just faking the data entirely?

[–]RM-Goetbbels 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

What I don't like is people like you. People who are disingenuous and have no actual desire to examine the facts.

I say this because I read the article briefly, looked at the numbers and saw that as of 11/14(?) there were 300,000 less deaths than the previous 3-4 years.

You, being the asshole that you are and looking for a fight, chose my comment to smugly reply to without thinking about, and probably not reading it all. I'm making a poke here, just having fun but what you saw was an opportunity to hone your dickhead skill and well, that was just a bad idea fucknut.

So, since you asked, even being an asshole like you are, I'll explain it dumb fuck.

If this nation has a somewhat consistent record of 2.5 million people dying a year than that's a "standard". Let's call it a standard. So typically 2.5 million people die of heart attacks, cancer, car accidents, whatever. Then comes along a deadly virus that is wiping our population out! But it's not, there isn't an appreciable amount of deaths, the deaths are just being labeled as COVID.

So if COVID is causing all these deaths why is it that we statistically lose 2.5 million people? This is what you're too dense, or are outright lying about, to get.

If COVID is such a deadly virus then we should have our 2.5 million deaths PLUS another 2.5 million deaths. Get it moron? Or do you want to lie some more?

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

What I find cute is that you wrote all this, not realizing how wrong you are. We have way more deaths this year, not fewer. CDC deaths listed by week. Notice how we've been above the CDC's "excessive" standard every week since April 2020?

Longass rant based on a false premise. Fucking lol.

[–]RM-Goetbbels 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Again moron. If Covid 19 is so deadly then why are there so few deaths? If we normally have 2.5 million death without covid then why has it not doubled? Are you too dense to understand?

We are a nation of ~320 million people so to "lose" 2 million is appropriate with age, health conditions and accidents. If you introduce another deadly factor in should those numbers not appreciate significantly? <<< I don't really need an answer from you.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Lol, I love the casual goalpost switch, like you can't even remember what you claimed 20 minutes ago.

First it was that deaths haven't changed. Then I showed you actual data showing it definitely has. Now your response is that deaths need to double before it's considered deadly?

[–]RM-Goetbbels 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I don't know the numbers of people that have died in 2020 and neither do you. I am going with what this article says and another one I briefly read. I'm not moving the goalposts at all.

Again moron, if covid 19 is such an effective killer then why hasn't the number of deaths in the US increased dramatically. We normally have ~2.5 million deaths per year, if it hasn't increased tremendously then covid is not a threat to the US population.

Show me the bodies in the streets.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I am going with what this article says and another one I briefly read

Genius, those are CDC numbers. They even acknowledge that they're CDC numbers in the article. The main difference is that the article lies and says total deaths haven't increased, when the CDC maintains a website specifically for this year's excess deaths which shows that they definitely have. And they have actual numbers, too. In total, we've had about 400,000 more people die this year than should be expected.

I do have the numbers. Set whatever arbitrary standards for "deadly" that you want, just don't act like it's some great mystery just because you personally suck at looking up data.

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    [–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    The virus has an R value of around 2, so 2 billion is a conservative estimate of infections if the virus had been left to run rampant. You think the number is "unrelated to reality" because for you, even understanding the basics is a struggle.

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      [–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I love how you've been so completely owned at this point that all you can do is repeatedly call me "Fauci fister". As if CDC stats are based on what Fauci says, and not the other way around.

      As you're the type of dimwit that struggles to understand what an average is, I'm not surprised by your misunderstanding. You see Fauci on TV, telling people what the experts are saying, and you assume everyone else must get their beliefs from Fauci too.

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        [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        This.

        [–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

        It amazes me that you "skeptics" are so uninformed that you're actually swallowing this crap in 2021, when you can easily look up actual CDC numbers and see that the total deaths have increased markedly, with spikes that correlate with rises in cases.

        You lot are a bunch of fucking ostriches.

        [–]Lahontan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Hey, great way to falsely label a link. That is not the CDC.

        [–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Nothing is falsely labelled. CDC uses a 3rd-party service for graphing, and you can see the exact same data on CDC's website. I just linked directly to the graph for convenience.

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          [–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

          Dude, did you not see the blue text? I already gave you a link.

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            [–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            Are you retarded, or just blind? The data goes back four years. The dates are at the bottom, and you can hover over any bar and see what week that represents

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              [–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              Oh, so you're retarded and blind.

              You're retarded for thinking that somehow viewing deaths by day instead of by week would give you a better picture, when in reality, all you'll get is more noise (different days of the week, local climate and air conditions, coroner's offices being closed in certain regions when one of those days falls on a weekend, etc).

              And you're blind for not noticing all the other charts accessible on the linked page, which includes deaths by cause, deaths by age, deaths by race, etc.