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[–]fred_red_beans 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The general public really has no sense of proportion. Million, billion, trillion - if the media says it's big and bad then it must be so, but if they don't say anything, well...

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Yup. Something isnt right. Your numbers are off.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Good point, I upvoted the OP but we should correct the numbers.

It says 488k, your link says 883k. So we can say it is roughly double what the OP image says.

Which means that the overall rate is 0.012% instead of 0.006%. And the 2018 seasonal flu was 0.009%. So with the correct numbers taken in to account, covid is basically the 2018 flu season, but 1.3x worse.

The reaction to covid has been a lot more than 1.3x the reaction to the 2018 flu season. This reaction made sense back at the start when people legitimately thought the mortality rate was 3-4%, but months later now that it's apparent the actual IFR is more around 0.3%, we need to scale our reaction back proportionally as well. But some people seem to be stuck in the emotion of the earlier panic before we knew what we were dealing with exactly.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The 2018 Flu information is being skewed too. I'm not seeing a global death rate of 650K for 2018 in my search, but there are articles saying a yearly death rate of 290K-650K. With the average being 389K. Note the upper limit being 650K. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza

What I did find is the US death rate for the 2018 flu season was 61099. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html Compare that to covid19's 187,159 deaths. We are only 3/4s of the way through the year as well.

It is also suspicious how they paint the picture the flu season was no big deal when it was one of the worse we had in decades as far as deaths go. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/last-years-flu-broke-records-for-deaths-and-illnesses-new-cdc-numbers-show/2018/09/26/97cb43fc-c0ed-11e8-90c9-23f963eea204_story.html

The overreaction to Sars2 is because of its novelty. Check this out for a better understanding of the "pandemic" classification. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/basics/about.html Since we are comparing it to the flu, it seems to meet a lot of the pandemic criteria wouldnt you say? How the world is handling the virus has been the craziest shit ever tho.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It was made some time ago ...

[–]mongre 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's right if you're a delusional, corrupt party hell bent on controlling politics.

[–]happysmash27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Part of the reason so few have died is because of the intensive prevention measures. Also, I hear the effects of COVID-19 can still be pretty bad even if they don't kill you.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But seasonal flu is spread the same way as covid so is also contained by those prevention measures. So covid figures right now should still be higher than flu to justify the law changes and lockdown.

[–]yayblueberries 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I like how only now people like you suddenly care about the effects of a disease not killing you when that's the case with literally everything in existence but you all seemed to run around with joy in public as much as possible every time you got a communicable disease. NOW it matters?!

[–]againstsinglemother2 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]ekb88 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

World population was around 1.8 billion in 1918, not 950 million.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Source?

Bad "estimate" by half? Makes one wonder about the numbers.

Still, if the rest of the numbers are correct, even half keeps it over 2.6%.

[–]soundsalad 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's the source for the 2018 flu season numbers?