The cruel and dangerous b.s. of this -“only 6% of COVID deaths are from COVID” – conspiracy theory.

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[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

The biggest red pill on how absolutely stupid people can be when they are brainwashed is trying to explain to seeming intelligent people that the corona numbers are bullshit. They literally can not compute it. They immediately accuse you of thinking that viruses don't exist, or some other strawman they were programmed to assume you believe. They will say "oh of course the numbers aren't perfect, but we are doing the best we can. Those numbers are the most accurate they can be, and they are pretty close to the truth".

Meanwhile the total number of deaths this year is lower than the total number of deaths this time last year. That is INCLUDING the "corona" deaths. In order for the official corona death count to be anywhere in the ballpark you have to assume that there were nearly zero non corona deaths all year. Absolutely fucking retarded.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It isn't that they are stupid however. They are simply brainwashed. Huge difference.

[–]yayblueberries 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

They are also in a huge amount of denial right now. The numbers are now showing that people with co-morbidities are the ones dying. Most of the snotty people screaming about how dangerous Covid-19 is are big fatties. The fat ones must be shitting bricks right now because they are the ones at risk in a very huge way and for most people, they did it to themselves. I mean, there are some cases where a medical condition (which would ALREADY give them a co-morbidity) causes them to gain weight easily and rapidly, but everybody else just eats way too much crap. They would have to admit to themselves that they put THEMSELVES at risk, nobody else did it, and that it's now on them to lose weight.

Also, imagine screaming at everybody that Covid-19 is definitely going to kill everybody and demand everybody stay at home and ruin their lives for months on end, and then be told LOL JK it's not that dangerous especially to already healthy people. Imagine ruining numerous relationships you had just to find out you were wrong.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I am fat. Was not always, in fact for most of my life I was in great shape. I also did not do it to myself. Your prejudice shows. If you truly understood human biology, you would realize the same fucking assholes are responsible for the obesity epidemic as are responsible for covid.

I also had COVID. Mean sore throat, I tell you. And that dry cough, BLEH.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No one else can exercise for you. No one shoved food in your mouth. You will immediately accuse everyone who doesn't agree with your perspective of not understanding because they aren't you, that is stupid. You aren't the arbiter of knowledge. It is you who doesn't understand that non fat people also get hungry, they also struggle to get their weight down, work their ass off to lose 5 pounds in a month only to gain it all back in a weekend. You are the arrogant one who thinks you have unique challenges. You are in denial about the fact that others did what you won't and that is why they succeeded and you didn't.

Weight loss requires life style changes. It requires losing all your progress and starting again from scratch the next day.

Drink a liter of water with every meal. Walk (don't run) at a brisk pace 5-10 miles a day (working your way up). This will take several hours each day, make time. Don't make excuses like: I'll start when I buy walking shoes/download podcasts/get an ipod. Do it now and get that shit done later. Don't watch the scale, your weight will fluctuate and you WILL GAIN BACK WEIGHT no matter what on certain days; it is temporary. Fill your stomach with fiber, take small bites of food to get the flavor and wash it down with giant gulps of water; it tricks your brain into thinking you ate a lot of high calorie food.

This is 100% guaranteed to make you lose weight.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Your hubris is just that: hubris. I am a highly rated diet expert and trainer of athletes. My obesity has NOTHING to do with lack of exercise or bad nutrition. In this aspect, I am every bit as good as the arbiter of knowledge. I have succeeded at physical prowess that would make you cry. And certainly when looking at my former self, you would say "there's a guy who trains seriously and knows exactly what he's doing" but no, your hubris is too strong.

Weight loss requires, before any lifestyle changes FUNCTIONING MITOCHONDRIA. Without these in sufficiently good working order, a "healthy weight" is more than impossible, it is dangerous to the point of being deadly.

And don't patronize me with your two-penny advice. It is literally kindergarten level drivel. You understand NOTHING about the topic, and yet you give that shite advice that any 5-year-old understands. You think that "calories in / calories out" is super simple because it's simple to write. You know nothing about the metabolism of energy, and yet you preach. Go hide in shame, hubris-monster.

[–]Djfjfjdbffj 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well said! There's also the microbiome aspect as well.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This was just an emotion-piece. It constantly pulled to language like "fathers, brothers, and sisters are dying" and "do these people deserve to die of covid" but offers very little substance. It focused on the asthma bit the most, not cancer or heart disease, which probably would've killed most of those people this year even if they hadn't caught covid.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

So many people get diagnosed with asthma. In the UK is a big favourite with doctors and around 30% of the population get an asthma diagnosis simply from puffing in a tube. However 30% of the population are not dying of covid 19 or even getting slightly sick from it.

Of course one of the underlying causes for adult asthma is obesity. Rather than it being only an autoimmunity disease asthma is a symptom of a few different illnesses. Covid might be a risk to people with fat asthma but not allergy asthma or vise versa but no one wants to admit there's a difference.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I never knew that there was a difference. I am glad that you have told me about this.

[–]zyxzevn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We have 5 categories:

1) There are deaths that Covid-19 did not contribute to. Like car accidents, die of old age. These can be people that were indeed infected, but never got ill. Or people that were misdiagnosed by faulty tests.

2) There are deaths that happened earlier due to Covid-19. These people would have died anyway, but the deaths increased the death by 1 to 30 days.

3) There are deaths that happened by the immune system reaction caused by the infection. Some people are more vulnerable, due to overweight or other. The conditions that make you vulnerable is important information, but not well published due to the bad politics.

4) Deaths that happened due to wrong treatments. Like using ventilators on people that did not need it. Politics does not even want to touch this. HCQ +Zinc can reduce the deaths by 90% if used correctly.

5) Not counted by CDC under Covid-19, but shows up in the deaths-count in an area. Deaths that happened due to the economic lock-down, fears and depressions. Also deaths that were caused by people NOT going to the doctor for other diseases. This increases the death rate, without any infection/disease.

All the numbers around these deaths are under discussion, but the political narratives interfere with these numbers. These numbers are also different per country.

The left media claims that the 6% is about (2), but with much longer time (1-2 years).
This is an unrealistic claim without evidence.

The 6% is about (3), but I think that number is much too high. Because (4) has increased the fatalities.
The studies on HCQ+ by doctors showed that (2) can also decrease by a lot.

Addition:
I think we can split 2 into more categories ( 2a <1 month ; 2b < 6 months ; 2c <2 years )
And it would be interesting to research the numbers in these.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A TRULY insightful post. Whoa.

[–]bonked_or_maybe_not 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are twisting the claim to make it outrageous.