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[–]Questionable 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Now do the same thing on a tread mill where you are stationary. Manual labor jobs have people standing in a single location, without air circulation.

[–]rdh2121[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Why? You'll just move the goalposts again when literally nothing happens.

Remember that the first sign of a conspiracy theory is having an answer for everything, and never being satisfied with proven data. Non-falsifiability is exactly what makes most conspiracy theories, like those doubting the literal mountains of data supporting the safety and efficacy of masks, unscientific.

[–]Questionable 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

What fucking goal posts? I already know the results because the manual labor I was speaking of was myself! I can't breath at work! Now shut the fuck up with your accusations!

[–]rdh2121[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I can't breath at work!

And yet here you are. Seems like you can "breath" at work, otherwise you'd be dead. Now shut the fuck up with your stupidity.

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

"And yet here you are. Seems like you can "breath" at work, otherwise you'd be dead. Now shut the fuck up with your stupidity."

Wow! I cant argue against that logic! Nobody can. Because one can not argue against someone so profoundly stupid as you are sir. Good show! I concede to you!

[–]rdh2121[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I mean, you still haven't put together an actual argument yet, so...

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You're right, I didn't put up an argument at all. Which leaves me asking what the fuck are you doing?

[–]rdh2121[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Continuing to counter your attempts to distract and disinform. :D

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Stop editing shit in. Nobody mentioned any theories, or conspiracies.

Now here is what was edited in in case you change it again:

"Remember that the first sign of a conspiracy theory is having an answer for everything, and never being satisfied with proven data. Non-falsifiability is exactly what makes most conspiracy theories, like those doubting the literal mountains of data supporting the safety and efficacy of masks, unscientific."

[–]rdh2121[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So disingenuous. You are entirely aware that this sub is constantly being filled with anti-mask propaganda and conspiracy theories, and your entirely anecdotal, baseless challenges to actual data are clearly nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to continue to discredit good science.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good science is open-science - everything else is blind faith.

Open-science means not censored.

Why are they censoring alternative ideas and solutions?

That's not good science.

[–]Earl_Harbinger 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I thought the claim was generally that carbon dioxide levels increased, not that oxygen levels fell too low.

[–]chadwickofwv 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It doesn't matter. There is no medical need for them and absolutely nobody should have the authority to force someone else to use them, or any other "medical/safety" device.

[–]rdh2121[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

There is no medical need for them

If you count "not spreading a plague" as not a medical need, then sure, I guess.

absolutely nobody should have the authority to force someone else to use them, or any other "medical/safety" device.

You're not wrong, but if you don't wear a mask, you're still an asshole. Furthermore, any contribution you make to the spread of the virus is your moral responsibility, even if it's not your legal responsibility.

Be better, people.

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    [–]rdh2121[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    On no a plague exactly like the cold or the flu.

    Neither of those are a plague, and neither of those are like the Coronavirus, which has been shown to cause semi-permanent lung damage, for just one example of how it's different, so...

    How will we ever survive this pandemic?

    Masks and social distancing. Or sacrificing the elderly and immunocompromised if you're an asshole, like the majority of the country seems to be, I suppose.

    Oh wait I know probably the exact same way we survived all the other ones.

    Yeah, with MILLIONS OF PEOPLE DYING. How about we, y'know, try to AVOID THAT THIS TIME, especially since the effort it takes to do so is so incredibly minimal (and yet somehow so difficult for some people)?

    Welcome to Earth. You are guaranteed no safety here.

    This is a retarded argument, and you know it. The entirety of human history has been about decreasing the inherent risk of human life on Earth, and I guarantee that you take countless anti-risk precautions both for yourself and others every single day without even thinking about it, so you can take your hypocritical bullshit somewhere else.

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      [–]rdh2121[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I am immunocompromised(lupus, sjogrens, RA, and FMF) so.....not the asshole you think I am.

      Fair enough. I apologize for my tone - I just have to wade through so many conspiracy theories and so much science denial on this sub that I think I may have stopped giving people the benefit of the doubt, but that's on me.

      If I feel unsafe or that I might get infected I don't go somewhere. It's called being responsible for your own health.

      Absolutely, and this is, of course, best practice. But, not everyone in that position has the social support network to go into public in their place, and so have no choice but to take those dangerous actions for necessities like food and medical care, not to mention the fact that any spread of the virus makes it more likely that immunocompromised people will come in contact with it.

      Wearing a mask and social distancing is such a small thing, and can help so many people, that it boggles my mind how so many people are so resistant to it. I agree that it shoudn't be mandated by law, but it should be mandated out of respect for your fellow man.

      We don't require people to wear masks for any other disease. Why not the flu?

      For multiple reasons, but the biggest one is the fact that we have a vaccine for the flu that millions of people get every year, which provides a degree of herd immunity that reduces the transmission rate and deadliness of the flu.

      Another reason that might be just as big is the fact that we've known practically everything about the various strains of flu for decades, and have expectations for both the numbers and symptoms of people that have to be treated. The Novel Coronavirus, on the other hand, is, well, novel, and so we still know surprisingly little about it, both the virus itself, its symptoms, and the way it kills. Even now, we're still discovering new info, like how it can cause permanent lung damage. Plus, since we have no herd immunity, the chances that medical facilities will be overrun with its rapid spread are greatly increased, so people who should have lived through the virus with appropriate medical attention will instead die due to lack of capacity (this is why New York's death rate is so much higher than every other state's, and many, if not most of those deaths were preventable if people had taken proper precautions with masks starting much earlier).

      These are just a few of the reasons.

      Last year I had the flu for three months. Literally three months of illness. It sucked, but I'm not about to require that every other person in my general vicinity wear a hot uncomfortable mask when it is 95 degrees outside.

      I had the flu for the first time this year too, and can definitely vouch for it sucking. But, again, our medical facilities are prepared for the seasonal flu; we haven't had time to get the infrastructure in place for a rapidly-spreading pandemic, even if its symptoms and death rate look similar to that of the flu (with the very limited amount of info we have about the virus so far).

      I am against legally mandated mask wearing, but I absolutely believe in extreme social shaming for assholes who are willing to trade others' lives for a tiny bit of discomfort when they go outside (which they shouldn't be doing anyway unless they have to! double assholery!).