Transgender activism and the trolley problem

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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Gender dysphoria even as medical problem is so rare that it should not spawn "trans rights" movement.

Read "Transgender Industrial Complex" and you understand how this process works and how doomed we are.

Money talks and who funds most NGOs wins. Especially if they have captured government and can use it to fund their NGOs.

For whose sake am I even writing this BS. Most people are just too dumb to understand this, even my parents dont do it.

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

This cartoon was originally posted by Colin Wright on Twitter, in a good faith attempt to have a proper discussion about trans ideology and its unreasonable demands.

Twitter banned him for posting it. If we can discuss certain ideas, we are living under fascism.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

someone with a twitter account should @ elon and ask him to unban

[–]tiny-brown-mug 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This should be re-posted on the "LGB Drop the T" subforum. Good cartoon. The genuinely gender dysphoric folks I met 20 years ago were nothing like this new wave of madness. They were quiet, well-mannered folks who just wanted to blend in, live their lives, pass, and avoid harassment.

I still don't agree that surgery and hormones is ever a good idea... and I'm convinced that gender dysphoria needs counseling and reality, not surgery. But still, there's a huge difference between how this was handled a generation ago vs. now.

[–]Densel 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So true. Most trans people go trough life-changing procedures mostly cuise they can not becuse of mental illness or a need to.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Could it also be argued that, perhaps, trans groups and individuals are now targeting, bullying, and pressurizing lgb folks the way that some lgb folks have targeted, bullied, and pressured conservative Christians?

Think of it. Let's say you're a gay shop owner, and you sell t-shirts, hoodies, and jackets with rainbow-themed stuff, a lot of it geared towards gay men, but some stuff for gay women, too. You're not into the whole trans thing, and you find them kind of weird and threatening, so you refuse to sell or order any "pride progress" themed things or trans-positive designs.

One day, a man who self-identifies as a woman comes into your shop and asks if you have any trans-themed hoodies, and you respond that you do not. He asks if you could order one for him, and you respond that you only sell "pride" themed items, no trans stuff. He asks why, and you explain why.

The next thing you know he's extremely upset, calls you a bigot, and threatens to sue. Which he does. Pretty soon thanks to the fit he's throwing on social media, you're now getting hate mail, and you've been doxxed. Your business is under threat, all because you refused to step out of your comfort zone for a customer who's life choices and psychology you find abnormal, and distasteful. You weren't rude to the guy, you were just honest, and firm. You didn't kick him out of your store, either, and you would have gladly sold him a rainbow-themed hoodie.

This is a plausible situation, and gay and lesbian business owners will probably be facing a lot more of this at some point. It is kind of ironic that this is actually a real problem now. I don't think anyone should be forced to step out of their comfort zone, violate their conscience, or endorse views they find distasteful or immoral simply to stay in business.

It did just occur to me, though, that conservative Christian-owned schools, charities, venues, photo studios, and bakeries have had to go through this sort of thing, too. Similar problem, different values, different bullies.