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[–]useless_aether 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

yes to all of this. they want to rebuild the ottoman empire just how putin wants the soviet union. i was holidaying in turkey a few times, talked about politics/history (after a few drinks) and they are very nationalistic and expansionist.

plus, the sabbatean-frankists and young turks are globally influential and fundamentally communists (jesuitic), so merkel and putin are all erdogans partners.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

plus, the sabbatean-frankists and young turks are globally influential and fundamentally communists (jesuitic), so merkel and putin are all erdogans partners.

I agree it's probably true, but do you happen to have some evidence for that claim in particular? I was trying to look for evidence of Erdogan being a freemason but was unable to find anything significant. Or I was trying to find evidence of a bribe given by a major power to Erdogan. I could've sworn when the palace was built there were lots of articles about how it was built using bribe money, but I was unable to find them when I just looked recently. I'd love to have one more piece of the puzzle that truly shows the guy is under the thumb of some major power. (Other than all the actions he is doing, which is quite an indicator in itself)

The military-industrial-banking complex will definitely spend a few billion dollars if guarantees they will get a trillion-dollar war. It's just financially logical, unfortunately.

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i am a bit busy (getting ready to build a new shed, redoing a bathroom, the spring is here, etc) atm, but i will post stuff as i go. in turkey the real power was held by the army, and erdogan changed that with purges and concentrated power in his own hand. he purged the gulenists and also reduced the influence of the 'elders' (babas? or smthing like that they are called), he purged the teachers, the journalists, etc, reduced the power of the parliament, the government, the courts, and concentrated everything in his hands. so it's probably not hard for him to get rich. putin did the same in russia, they are following the same pattern.

edit: but i don't have anything concrete about the jesuit connection other than that erdogan went to visit bergoglio in the vatican and bergoglio also visited him in turkey afterwards..