Overbrewed colloidal silver

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Wait a minute, I am making COLLOIDAL silver, not ions. Making ions out of a 30v PSU would mean a chemical reaction rather than an electro-physical one.

There are no contaminants in my water. So I took the cloudiness to mean a simple over-saturation of particles, where they are unable to maintain proper separation somehow. I'd have to investigate this because it clashes with the physics I know...

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Wait a minute, I am making COLLOIDAL silver, not ions. Making ions out of a 30v PSU would mean a chemical reaction rather than an electro-physical one.

I think they're essentially interchangeable, and I know that's a hot topic of debate but this guy really hits the hammer on the nail

Good luck, let me know if you figure it out.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Well from my understanding of physics, there is no way low-voltage, low-current electrodes in distilled water make ions. The concentration of charge in ions is such that I find it unimaginable that such a weak power supply would result in them.

Also, his article makes claims about "ions vs particles" but never demonstrates the highly dubious physics of ions out of a 9V battery for example. Yes, there is an electric charge that promotes the suspension of silver. But that doesn't have to mean ions: metals share their electrons.

I remain unconvinced, but I don't know where to turn to for the physics of it, since any search engine when going "colloidal silver" will show me pages where to buy it and equipment, but not real science.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The stuff I make with a 9V battery has a strange refraction, I assume from the silver, but the real proof it's silver in there comes if you leave the batch sitting for weeks, it turns ink black, silver nitrate. I've also tested the anti bacterial properties of it in a super scientific experiment involving moldy bread and on my bathroom walls (no ventilation so mold is a problem)

I do have some bad news. Silver isn't the best at what it does. Ultimately bleach worked way better on the walls, and a simple otc antibacterial cream was far more effective for wound care. Even tested a commercial silver antibacterial cream. It would follow that prescription antibiotics are also far more effective than silver.

Also, a piece of silver in a bowl of water doesn't keep it fresh longer, tried that too, but silvering is used in the water holds of ships.

I don't know if trying to make a colloidal suspension will do better, the article I linked didn't think so. I suspect not, but please do test it.

don't know where to turn to for the physics of it, since any search engine when going "colloidal silver" will show me pages where to buy it and equipment, but not real science.

I have the same problem. There's a lot of junk info out there.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Just the fact that colloidal silver can be yellow speaks of a particle size that is much greater than the atomic scale of actual ions.

Often it is not yellow but clear, but made with the same process that also results in yellow CS, if only at lower current settings. This leads me to conclude that the particles are then smaller and thus don't interfere with visible light, but not as different a size as to be near atomic scale.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

colloidal silver

if you want to make this stuff, maybe follow advice from the science journals:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0921510708002201

https://sci-hub.se/https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14786440609463462?journalCode=tphm17

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why. I have been making and using colloidal silver for over 16 years... I just got a new setup and seek to better understand the physics.

But the 1906 paper uses a high current method, while I have no access to the sciencedirect one... :-(

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

sci-hub.se is your friend.