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Do we as Christians really believe in murdering non-believers?
submitted 2 years ago by [deleted] from self.Christianity
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[–]Cornfed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (8 children)
Neither statement would be taken as advocating unlawful violence by any rational definition.
[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (7 children)
I disagree, it does advocate violence, saying that murder is appropriate is the implicit assumption of the post, so the post has been removed.
[–]Cornfed 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun - 2 years ago (1 child)
I'm going to cease posting on your shitty platform and encourage others to do likewise. We don't need more censorship promoting dickheads.
[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun - 2 years ago* (0 children)
That is your choice. Removing trolls advocating murder isn't censorship. If anything, it keeps saidit online because we're less likely to get in legal trouble. So it's preventing this website from being censored.
[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (4 children)
I don't think that's his own assumption, I feel like he's disappointed that too many here do believe that. Hence the really?
[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago* (3 children)
He said "we".
He said "do we really believe this?" as if it has been a long-held belief of his that he's now questioning. If he viewed the murderers as an outgroup, he would've said "Do Christians hold this view?" or "Do some Christians hold this view?"
Acting like not murdering someone is a novel idea, is not only an obvious troll post, but is coming in with the default stance of "murder is okay", which is against saidit rules of advocating violence.
[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (2 children)
It sounds to me like he disagrees with murder and sees himself as the outgroup. "We" is meant to address Christendom in general, which he is also a part of but that does not make him 100% in agreement with them.
You could be right but I think the language is confusing and it's kind of jumping to a conclusion. Although I can see why we need to err on the side of caution, especially these days.
[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Yes it's on the line, which is why I deleted the post but didn't ban the user. But I agree it's better to err on the side of caution these days.
[–]soundsituation 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
It's honestly a pretty common troll technique. The recipe is:
1) Make outlandish claim 2) Distance yourself from that claim by attributing it to "others" 3) Fail to show any examples that illustrate your claim
The posts usually reference an always un-cited they/them so this one is different in that it uses us/we, but the game is the same.
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