Critical Explanation of Genocide in the Bible

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[–]Cornfed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

The idea here seems to be to explain anything away that doesn't comport with modern political correctness.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

We have our struggles against political correctness, but I'm starting to see a tendency to dismiss everything that doesn't portray God as a vile tribal leader as modern political correctness. At this rate we're just going to become Islam-lite, and I'm talking about the violent middle-eastern kind, not the normal ones.

[–]Cornfed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

It should be so dismissed. Clearly God approves of evil cultures being wiped out. I agree with God. For example, all the adult morons who took the doom flu jabs will hopefully die soon and have Hell to look forward to.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

This is not the work of the holy spirit, you are being led directly by the devil and the archons in their plot to make people hate and torment each other and distract us while they keep us trapped under their control and use us to fuel their sadistic urges.

Early Christians like Paul said they became a slave to everyone so that they could win as many as possible. You on the other hand shut the gates of the kingdom, you yourself do not enter and block anyone else who wants to, like the Pharisees. You only care about yourself and your petty victory and would delight at seeing your enemies burn forever. And you are proud! This is pure hatred and cannot be from the same god. Look out, because the only one you can condemn is yourself. Stop listening to the archons who want you to bring this judgement upon yourself so they can say you are indebted to them. Any debt you have is paid off, as is everyone's. Understand this and stop demanding vengeance and repaying evil with evil. No one can ever be justified by their own works, because they are all evil. If you try going this route you will undoubtedly fail, and that's exactly what the archons want. And they also want you to abandon the gracious gift for it so you can have revenge, but do not be tricked because justice will be served on you too.

[–]Cornfed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I'm not sure what you're on about but it has no relationship to anything in the Christian religion.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It has everything to do with it. The fact that you don't even recognize it is not a good sign at all. Have you ever studied Jesus for yourself? Or do you just listen to whatever the televangelists tell you? They mostly want your money and power over you, or are themselves deceived. Or is it politics that defines Christianity for you? That's another common one lately. If you're being led by other people you are not being led by the spirit.

[–]Cornfed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I explained my position on various aspects of Christianity in this blog:

https://finalversionchristianity.blog/

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Jesus said love your neighbour. This seems to be widely misunderstood, despite Jesus making himself clear in the parable of the Good Samaritan.

The Good Samaritan is quite the opposite. A Samaritan helped a Jew, who even to this day hate each other. "This is your neighbor" is more likely to mean that the Samaritan is being a neighbor by loving his enemy, not that the Jew only had to love the Samaritan, especially since the final remark is "do likewise". Also important to note, this parable is questionable since it does not appear in any other gospel and is also not in Marcion's authentic version of Luke, so if your interpretation is correct it's more likely to be a rewrite by Polycarp.

there is of course nothing wrong with organising a community along racial or religious lines.

The whole point of the Good Samaritan is that it is NOT by those lines.

You are NOT required to love random people next door you don’t know or people the government is bringing in to destroy your neighbourhood or whatever. They are not what is mean by your “neighbours”.

Yes you are. Even for a good person someone will rarely die, but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us.

The Bible also calls for you to love your neighbour as yourself. This means that once you have decided someone is a member of your community, there should be some element of unconditionality to your wishing the best for them, just as you presumably want the best for yourself, even if you don’t always live up to your own standards.

Then what's even the point, if you can just pick and choose who you love? Don't even evil people already love those who love them?

[–]Cornfed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Read the parable again. It was from the point of view of the robbery victim. It pointed out that the Samaritan was his neighbor because he effectively participated positively in his community whereas the Jew did not. Such community participation is generally along ethnic lines.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It isn't from anyone's point of view, it's in third person. He said to do as the Samaritan did. Also, Jews and Samaritans were enemies and not of the same ethnic group.

[–]Tiwaking 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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Genesis 24: 22-31 22Only herein will the men consent unto us for to dwell with us, to be one people, if every male among us be circumcised, as they are circumcised. 23Shall not their cattle and their substance and every beast of theirs be ours? only let us consent unto them, and they will dwell with us. 24And unto Hamor and unto Shechem his son hearkened all that went out of the gate of his city; and every male was circumcised, all that went out of the gate of his city.

25And it came to pass on the third day, when they were sore, that two of the sons of Jacob, Simeon and Levi, Dinah's brethren, took each man his sword, and came upon the city boldly, and slew all the males. 26And they slew Hamor and Shechem his son with the edge of the sword, and took Dinah out of Shechem's house, and went out. 27The sons of Jacob came upon the slain, and spoiled the city, because they had defiled their sister. 28They took their sheep, and their oxen, and their asses, and that which was in the city, and that which was in the field, 29And all their wealth, and all their little ones, and their wives took they captive, and spoiled even all that was in the house. 30And Jacob said to Simeon and Levi, Ye have troubled me to make me to stink among the inhabitants of the land, among the Canaanites and the Perizzites: and I being few in number, they shall gather themselves together against me, and slay me; and I shall be destroyed, I and my house. 31And they said, Should he deal with our sister as with an harlot?

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They're fake stories made up by Judahite elites like Ezra and Josiah that turn God into a war god and make him evil, but it's okay because he's on their side! And yours too, as long as you obey the priest and king system that benefits said elites! Give them money and obey them without question as if they are God! These are the false and lying books and "law" (Torah) rebuked in Jeremiah 7-8. This is also the real reason for the infamous disconnect between God in the new and old testaments. Now does it make sense why "scribes" are rebuked along with the Pharisees and Sadduccees?

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"turn God into a war god"

You are just projecting your modern niceties back onto the past.

Pre 1914 the vast majority of people were pro-war, they didn't see a problem with god being so.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I highly doubt the Jesus of the new testament wouldn't have a problem with it. His basic teachings are literally "don't resist the one who is evil, don't repay evil with evil, turn the other cheek" etc. Everyone just ignores it though, because revenge feels so satisfying.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pre 1914 the vast majority of people were pro-war, they didn't see a problem with god being so.

The way that leads to life is also narrow, and few find it.