Does anyone know where I can find the full Gnostic Text "Pistis Sophia" online to read for free?

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Sophia is Lucifer and mystery Babylon.

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Is she? No sarcasm, if you wouldn’t mind sharing, what is your perspective/thoughts on the gnostic texts, demiurge, etc? I’ve read some in the past and have known about the demiurge and Sophia for a while, but I just started reading it seriously, as classes just ended, so I don’t know enough yet to form my own opinion on this subject/area admittedly, I’m just exploring lol.

They way it’s written so far, it seems like Sophia is responsible for why each of us have the “Holy Spirit” in us? If anyone seems like Lucifer, I’d have thought it was the Demiurge? The “blind god of chaos” who created earth and the “firmament”

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I think gnostic texts are a mishmash of various heresies and truths. The early church even read the Gospel of Thomas and the Book of Enoch, although, the latter isn't gnostic.

I believe the Book of Enoch is authentic. That there was a flood, nephilim and the Elouid.

A good place to start is the words of Yeshua or 'Christ Sutras' by Brett Marshall. You will get the gospel words of Christ and the gnostic texts. I had to check all the different ones off in the book. I read through the gospel texts first, and then the apocrypha, and finally the gnostic, before reading all together.

What I can say is that some of the gnostic texts should be read, but when you read all of them together, there is a clear difference between the gnostic texts in what Yeshua preached and the gospel.

The gnostic texts are less about helping others, and more self-conceited and worldly, whereas the gospels preach a kingdom life, looking inward and following Christ.

Research Sophia. Search that wors on wikipedia. It's not Christ; it is Lucifer.

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Thank you so much for the responses and suggestions!

A good place to start is the words of Yeshua or 'Christ Sutras' by Brett Marshall. You will get the gospel words of Christ and the gnostic texts. I had to check all the different ones off in the book. I read through the gospel texts first, and then the apocrypha, and finally the gnostic, before reading all together.

Thank you so much for this suggestion! I feel like I'm going into this in the dark despite what I already know, and using what I already know (which obviously isn't a lot concerning this area) to connect dots. A lot of people have a lot of opinions on this - but I just looked up the Christ Sutras by Brett Marshall and from it's summary, it seems like it'll help a lot with that "dot connecting":

"Contained within theses pages are some of the most profound pointers to Truth ever voiced. Never before have the sayings of Jesus been presented in such an intimate, immediate, and revelatory way.

It is an extraordinary journey to arrive at a place you have known all your life and see it for the first time. This is the experience of reading Christ Sutras—ancient words you have heard since childhood expand and resonate with fresh, overpowering meaning, touching the deepest part of who you are. There is nothing new in this book, and yet it will change your life."

What I can say is that some of the gnostic texts should be read, but when you read all of them together, there is a clear difference between the gnostic texts in what Yeshua preached and the gospel.

This is what I mean, I feel like I'm in the dark researching this on my own. Does order matter? Is each text equally important? Were they kept out of the Bible because they don't want us to know what these texts contain, or were some of them just truly not appropriate for the book? It seems the book you referred me to is a great starting point, I honestly have never heard of it and appreciate you sharing that with me! I will be reading it over the Winter Break!

Edit: https://gnosticwarrior.com/sophia.html

An example is in the Cathar movement of the Middle Ages that contended Lucifer was the actual twin of Christ, as well as the creator of the universe (and this surely harkens back to ancient Egyptian lore, where Set and Osiris are rival siblings—really two sides of the same psychic coin, the forces in the human ego seeking balance).

I keep reading/seeing this everywhere - that either the Demiurge created the Earth, or Sophia did personally or by means of the Demiurge. So is this Earth considered Hell?

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If I had to recommend any apocrypha text it would be ANYTHING of Ethiopic origin or Geez language. The Book of Enoch is pretty extraordinary. The book 'Book of Enoch: Messianic Edition,' on amazon, is extraordinary in that the author shows that the apostles and early church were reading Enoch's texts but the Jews after 70AD and Church destroyed the text thereafter. It went missing for nearly two thousand years. Enoch says in the opening verses that this text is not written for my generation or the next, but for a remote one far to come. It is a warning for what is to come. He also mentions the Nephilim, watchers and Giants who were 10-18' that fell from the sky. THE BIBLE ALSO MENTIONS THE Nephilimall but twice. So there is a biblical reference to this race of humanoids.

Scholars say the Book of Enoch (the 1st book is the true book; the 2nd and 3rd are written by rabbis and are frauds) was written in-between 300-100BC well before Christ, however, it mentions tablets and was likely handed down and re-written hundreds of times over the generations which would make it the oldest book in the world. There is a full book found but it was bought by a banker and has yet to be released.

Enoch amazingly predicts the birth of Jesus or the Son of Man as he calls him by the very generation!

What I disagree with the author, of this edition of Enoch, is rather small. He believes that all of Israel, physical Israel, will be saved, meaning all Jews. But Israel is not Jewry. It is spiritual Israel which is faith in Christ! For even the elect can be tempted by Satan.

Enoch writes about how fallen watchers fell from the sky and mated with women. Lucifer is not Satan but one fallen watcher. They taught women abortion, men, the science of weaponology and every terrible sin that is inverse of God.

Earth is not considered hell. Again, gnostics invert scripture. It was created by God but men have free-will and before the demiurge were tempted by the Nephilim and Elouid that roamed the Earth.

As for Christ Sutras, again, read the gospels, preferably the Revised Standard Version, and then Marshalls books. Make sure you write where each verse is coming from in the book. It won't take too long to do this, as each verse is referenced in the back of the book. You'll be able to make out the deferencenin gnostic text and gospel text quite easily. As for the final sermon the author put together at the end, is a mishmash of gospel and gnostic that I do not agree with, but it is a beautiful book nonetheless.

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    I was first introduced to Sophia from a YouTube channel that I frequent that's honestly pretty good - the dude only glossed over Sophia as the video was about the Demiurge, but he explained it in a way (and I've read things online that coincide with what he said), that made it seem like she was "the female half of the creator".

    I did read that she fell from grace, but everything I read said her falling from grace was due to the creation of the Demiurge (whereas you're pointing out she had already fallen at the point of the Demiurge's Creation), and because of this, she "gave humans the Holy Spirit", a way back home, so they wouldn't be punished for "her mistake" (the word mistake is what lead me to believe she wasn't an inherently evil being, versus someone who "literally waged war on God with 1/3rd of his Angels"), and she could eventually go back home as well.

    Obviously I do not have a good enough grasp on this topic or the background in general to connect dots like this. Thank you again for taking the time to reply to me and explain everything the way you did, as well as referring me to Christ Sutras! I genuinely appreciate it.

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    The book should be read after you read the gospels, that way you'll have a grasp on why nearly all of the gnostic texts are not canon. It doesn't mean they do not hold truths, however, many of it's motifs are an inverse of the gospel.

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    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Gnostic+Text+Pistis+Sophia.pdf&t=ffab&ia=web

    first link

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    Thank you!