Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you, thank you, you're too kind. I'll be here all week.

eBooks or Paperback? by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]Tiwaking 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Paperback.

You're holding it.

You're feeling it.

It captures your attention and doesnt need any tricks to do it.

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]Tiwaking 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

subling rivalry

BOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]Tiwaking 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Life isnt worth living.

Thats why life is worth living.

Just Koan Things

... and goodbye, time to close this account by [deleted] in ChattyKathys

[–]Tiwaking 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

CIA INFORMANT IS TYPING....

... and goodbye, time to close this account by [deleted] in ChattyKathys

[–]d3rr 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

eBooks or Paperback? by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I prefer paperback because I like the physical material, and loading the digital card with books is annoying. Not a huge fan of e-readers, they're too single-task.

Most things I read are on the computer. So really I prefer a free copy of a book, read from a website or pdf on a laptop or tablet.

What is this subreddit for? by isthiswhatithinkitdo in ChattyKathys

[–]d3rr 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah you can make a post with a chat widget too, but there's issues with trying to load multiple widgets on the page at once, so we backed off it.

What is this subreddit for? by isthiswhatithinkitdo in ChattyKathys

[–]wizzwizz4 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's cool!

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm just very happy for you! I hope you go far in your career and always enjoy your job!

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]BackwardsCompatible 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I typoed and meant "home home" to differentiate between there and apartment but I'll own it lol

And ty

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds super interesting! I'm glad you found an apartment that's not too far from you "home hom" as you put it!

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]asg101 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The evidence supports your statement. If the good outweighed the bad we would not be looking at the destruction of the environment on a global scale, the fastest rate of species going extinct in history, and the concentration of wealth and resources in the hands of so few. Anyone who cannot see what is going on is living in some sort of bubble that excludes reality.

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]Fly 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I haven't lost faith in humanity because I think in grey.

There are bad people but negative actions stand out a lot more than positive actions. People never even think about the neutral actions.

When is the last time you said to yourself, "Hey, that guy is just minding his business going about his day making an honest living?" vs. "Wow, what an asshole!"

Neutral behavior doesn't excite or attract attention.

Therefore I've made it a point not to pay any mind to the assholes when out in public but instead I focus on the people just going about their day, being considerate, rather than focusing on those who are throwing tantrums or making it harder on others.

There are a lot of people who make life harder but if the majority of people were those kinds of people the day-to-day would be chaotic. However, it's mostly peaceful with some chaos sprinkled in vs. mostly chaotic with peace sprinkled in.

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]We_Are_God 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It absolutely doesn't, but i suppose maybe that's subjective.

But for me, Just the beauty of the planet itself outweighs all the bad on it. So anything good otherwise is just a bonus 🤷

You really should work on your perception man. Easier said than done; but it'll definitely lead to a happier, more fulfilling life in the long run.

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]Jesus-Christ[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The bad out-weighs the good in this world.

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]We_Are_God 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like that's your problem. You would rather complain about the ugly side of the fruit, rather than bite into the good side.

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, hopeful optimism has got me no-where.

But has depressive realism/pessimism gotten you anywhere either?

Where are you trying to "get to"? And why? What do you imagine having or doing that you don't already have? What do you imagine that bringing you? If you can answer these questions in a way that's truthful to yourself, you're already way ahead of most people.

The truth is, the world is both fucked, and everything is special and every moment matters and has ripple effects that last forever. Both are simultaneously true, and it's always been that way. IMO to ignore the good OR ignore the bad, is to only see half the picture.

A true realist wouldn't ignore half of what's happening to suit a particular emotion. They would able to see all emotional angles simultaneously, good and bad, because they're all "true", right?

Sure we're all going to die, but we all have to live in the meantime. Your experience can suck, or you can make it not suck, or whatever you want. You can make it not matter, or matter tremendously. It's literally up to your mind's emotional interpretation of sensory data, which ultimately is something we decide. How do you want to pass the time?

My 2 cents

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You should. We could have a subling rivalry.

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]BackwardsCompatible 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am going into Information Security. The job market for that is always growing and I find the concepts very interesting.

As for moving, its a few hours away from "home hom", but the drive doesn't feel unreasonable. Its almost like Animal Cross IRL except I have a job. My apartment is pretty much empty lol

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Awesome! Super happy for you! What was your dream job? Also, I hope you moved somewhere you like, with people you love, and which doesn't provide too many financial or commute-related difficulties.

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]Jesus-Christ[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was going to start a sub doing the opposite lol.

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]Jesus-Christ[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

hopeful optimism may suit you better.

Honestly, hopeful optimism has got me no-where. In fact, I think it's only tricked me into being naive. Being hopeful for a future that doesn't exist, and then being let down by failure. It's a constant thing that's on repeat and it's torture, because I fall into a false sense of security.

Living by your own code brings you peace.

What's not to say that death will also bring you peace? I think if worse comes to worst, and you have a guilty conscious you could just commit suicide. Which will bring you eternal peace. That's what a lot of people resort to after all, when things get tough or you simply can't live with the actions you have made death will always be there. I'm not encouraging it, but to me it's a viable option given the circumstance. (I'm not actively looking by the way, I am suicidal but I won't be dying any time soon).

When you lose basic human characteristics that people are taught from a young age, you don't consider moral principles and you don't use it to ground yourself with which is the case for me. I don't have to be nice, but I choose to be. Does it matter at the end of the day? Not really, because the actions I make are not what keeps me awake at night. What keeps me awake at night is the inability to make change and the hopelessness it brings. Selfish? Yea, but most people are.

It may or may not make you important, but you are part of something.

I am part of something I don't want to be, it's safe to say we didn't have the choice to be here. But because of the selfishness of others we exist, we exist because our parents wanted a child. But to have one whilst acknowledging the problems they will go through is a conflicting thought to me. We exist because they wanted us to, or maybe we were a mistake. At the end of the day we're here, and some of us don't necessarily want to be. We're expected to follow the rules set when regardless of what we choose to do, we're just going to die anyways. Yea, I mean I don't really have any hope for humanity or for myself. So at this point I'm just letting time pass and watching the chaos ensue.

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]BackwardsCompatible 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, I got my dream job (or in the field of) so I can now start climbing that ladder. I also moved out for the first time!

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's all super interesting stuff! I hope the process helps improve pipeline safety, a very dry way of saying it I know, but the best way I could think of. How old were you when you started the company? Sounds like you've been pretty successful in life so far, and I hope you continue with the same amount of success, if not more.

Also, sorry if my last comment came off as creepy, I really didn't intend it that way.

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–]i_cansmellthat 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Faith, belief, and truth are tricky things. Add a dose of ego and you get self righteous, narrow minded behavior. I think it's a problem to label people though, a narrow minded person has the capacity to change and grow. I can personally attest to this, the last 18 months has kicked my ass but for the better, I think. Maybe approaching these thoughts from a faith (or lack of faith) perspective is not helpful to you, thinking in terms of hopeful optimism may suit you better.

Such as Moral Principles for example, at the end of the day this is used as a measurement to determine the good nature of somebody. But does any of it really even matter?

Yep it does. But one can only apply these qualities to oneself. You have your own internal code, and while that code may be changeable, when you violate it you will lose sleep. Living by your own code brings you peace.

Regardless of what we choose to do with our lives, how we treat others and what we believe in - sooner or later we will die, and that will be that. All the friends, bad memories, good memories, achievements - gone.

Reasonably true, but.....Think of this existence as a knitted blanket, you are a stitch as are all other living things. If you get pulled, the blanket may unravel, it may have a blemish, it may not be noticeable on one side. But you and others are united in existence to form the blanket. It may or may not make you important, but you are part of something. Does it matter what that something is? In this existence, the truth of our existence may not ever make itself known in a factually proven manner. Going forward with that knowledge in a positive way could be seen as noble.

I don't know, but I don't think anyone has cornered the market on truth. God, atheists, buddha, who knows. Maybe we all are fucked, but you can try to do the best with what you've got. If you fail today, try harder tomorrow. You can grow. I find a lot of peace knowing that I can't change anyone else, that's not my job. But trying to live positively can have a positive effect on others.

Rambling response, I hope it makes sense.

Has anyone lost faith in humanity? (Vent) by Jesus-Christ in ChattyKathys

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I haven't. When my two weeks are up, I plan to start a sub dedicated to just how ridiculously awesome humanity really is.

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't want to say too much but I had patented a process back in college and while working for a firm I started my own company, then another firm bought it and I work for them and the process may or may not help to improve pipeline safety, need trials to prove it first.

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If the existence of synthetic materials has taught me one thing, it's that there's always ways to improve materials.

Where is the pipeline, and what for? Also, what got you into chemistry in the first place?

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the chemistry of it and what it is to be made of and the lining of it. Top minds have already figured out the geography and physics of pipelines really but there are ways to improve the materials

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That sounds really interesting! What aspect of it are you working on (chemistry, geography, physics, etc.)?

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually, yes. That's pretty hilarious! I'm gonna have to look up some clips of that.

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[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mouse aiming provides 360° degree movement, in my opinion to a greater extent than controllers. I've spent my whole life with Keyboard and Mouse, so my hands feel really weird when holding a controller. It also just feels like it adds an extra layer between me and the game. But yeah, I definitely do need to get a controller, not just for twin-stick shooters, but also for DmC 3 and Co-Op in Pungeon and Wizard of Legend.

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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Go on... like an oil pipeline?

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm working on inventing a new type of unbreakable pipeline

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[–]Farseli 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you get the chance to try with a controller I'd say give it a shot. Games like Gungeon tend to work better that way (called twin-stick shooters).

For instance, I don't have an Xbox One, but I do have a controller for one that I use with my PC on some games. If I was playing Gungeon on PC it's probably what I would be using. I'm sure mouse aiming works, but I wouldn't want to miss out on 360 movement.

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[–]VantaFount 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You might be pleased to know that there's a very similar bug for people modding RE2R; The ending scene may show the protagonists walking on nothing but ethereal fog toward a sun.

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[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My brother played it years ago. Our GPU caused a graphical glitch which led to Silent Hill-esque fog everywhere, and he couldn't dodge the boulder, so he stopped playing. For years, he thought that's just how the game was, and years later did he find out it was a GPU glitch.

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[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm PC Master Race through and through, ever since our dad got us that Pentium 4 with 512MB RAM, and we played LEGO Star Wars and Indiana Jones and Conquer's Bad Fur Day, and Super Meat Boy all day. Good times. Also, I just never felt comfortable with a controller, but my hands fit on a keyboard and mouse like I was born with the damn things in my hands.

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's pretty interesting. But I wasn't referring to CRPGs. I was referring to tabletop. Have you ever played anything like Pathfinder, Fate, Deadlands, Call of Cthulu, GURPS, etc?

As for other genres, I'm a huge fan of micro-strategy like the original two Fallouts, Tom Francis' previous two games, Heat Signature and Gunpoint, and his upcoming game Tactical Breach Wizards, which I'm super excited for. I'm also a huge fan of roguelikes, as I mentioned before, like Dead Cells, Enter the Pungeon, and Wizard of Legend.

In terms of books, I'm a sucker for some hard Sci-fi, Fantasy, or Sci-fantasy, although I have yet to find something which pulls off that last one well, so I decided to just write one for fun. You know that they say, necessity is the mother of invention! I guess I'm also a pretty big fan of soft Fantasy, since I'm currently fighting the Poetic Edda. Classical Urdu literature is also really awesome.

The indie market is definitely where you should look for good games. Lootboxes have led to me losing pretty much all hope in AAA, but indie continues to push out beauties like Hyper Light Drifter and Cuphead.

Thanks for the website! My brother and I always say, "If it ain't free and open-source, it's botnet."

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[–]Jesus-Christ 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I don't play many RPGs if I'm honest, but my favourite game of all time is Elder Scrolls Oblivion. I play a few other games such as Chivalry Medieval Warfare too. As for my thoughts, I can't say I dislike them but the problem is me not being able or having the energy to learn the mechanics of them. It's why I usually play simple ones haha. I wish I was able to enjoy games as much as I did when I was younger, these days I find it hard to get invested into a video game. I'm usually sceptic when I see a new trailer, as opposed to being excited for it. I guess it's fear from being let down, because I've noticed a lot of games these days are over-hyped and regurgitated. There are indie games better than some triple A titles now, it's weird. I'm either losing interest in the hobby all together, or the industry is changing for the worst. Or a bit of both, I don't really know.

Do you like any other genres? What books do you read? I don't read much, but when I did it was usually dystopian fiction. Also, if you're interested in internet privacy I can refer you to a website that offers free and open source alternatives to things. It's pretty interesting even if you aren't gonna use anything from there!

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[–]Farseli 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I grew up with Super Smash TV on SNES and before Enter the Gungeon I was playing The Binding of Issac.

I'd recommend starting with the Soldier though. Starting with armor, a passive item that increases weapon charge speed, reduces spread (making shotguns better at range) and increases reload speed, plus one free ammo refill. Well suited for blasting through and learning the bosses.

Are you playing on a console? I also found the game a lot easier when using the Pro controller for Switch.

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[–]VantaFount 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If this is the first time you've played RE4 you're in for one helluva ride. I've put something like 400 hours into that one title.

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[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Same. Until it's up again, I'm always listening!

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm planning on starting RE4 in a bit. Been putting it off way too long. Got it from a friend today, gonna install it now.

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[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've heard Lisa is utterly heart-wrenching and hits way too close to home for anyone who's been a victim of domestic abuse. I've been wanting to play it, but haven't been able to work up the courage.

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[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

HOW? I can't even get past Gatling Gull! Also, I only play prisoner because I get hit more often than Lalatina from KonoSuba.

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[–]Farseli 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I can neither confirm nor deny that the RE2 remake is why my 3 year old keeps saying X gon give it to ya.

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[–]VantaFount 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The main thing I'm playing lately is the Resident Evil 2 Remake, but she may or may not feel like watching that.

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[–]VantaFount 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was just using the chatroom feature of the site, but it's currently giving me Error 521

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[–]Farseli 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Day in and day out, working in tech and taking care of the kids. 3 year old son and 10 month old daughter.

Just finished Kingdom Hearts 3 a few days ago so I'm having to think of what I'll play next for wife to watch.

Probably set up a PSP emulator and play the Star Ocean 2 enhanced port.

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[–]Farseli 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've been playing Enter the Gungeon on the Switch after my kids go to sleep. I still have a lot to do and learn in the game.

Killed the past for 3 of the starting characters though. Working on the hunter now.

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[–]Laser_Magnum[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, I like playing games as well! Currently, I'm trying to not be terrible at Wizard of Legend, Enter the Gungeon (read: Pungeon) and Dead Cells. I love seeing random strangers on the internet be happy. I also really enjoy playing RPGs. I'm currently GM'ing Caravan to Ein Arris for my sister. I've started looking into how to protect my privacy online as well. Do you play RPGs? If not, what are your thoughts on them?

For a sub called Chatty Kathys, there really isn't a lot of chatting happening here. by Laser_Magnum in ChattyKathys

[–]Jesus-Christ 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Life could be better. As for what I've done recently, absolutely nothing. I think that's the problem, but the cycles we sometimes find ourselves in can be hard to break.

As for what I like doing, not much. I occassionally play games, currently playing Team Fortress 2. I sometimes work on my garden when it's sunny, I'm not particuarly a green thumb but I enjoy working on it whilst it's quiet. I uhh, browse this website in hopes of finding new members and... rant about censorship on Reddit :)) I'm also interested in internet privacy, whilst it's good I am starting to value my privacy more - it's also becoming something I enjoy searching about. Currently been looking into Edward Snowden and the things he leaked from the NSA. I might even start using LineageOS on my smartphone but I'm kind of afraid of fucking it up since I'm still new to all of this.

What about you, Laser_Magnum?

What is this subreddit for? by isthiswhatithinkitdo in ChattyKathys

[–]d3rr 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

!!chat_widget

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[–]d3rr 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

it was for developing the chat feature and demoing stuff like

!!chat_widget

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh okay I see, I'll switch over to using that then now that I know it appends to reddit.less

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

theme-custom.less turns into its own css file which is included after reddit.less. i think they're all supposed to get merged into one big css file, and that would put theme-custom at the end. (subreddit custom css is the very last css though)

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just so I understand it, the theme-custom.less is an update to reddit.less, correct? It just appends whatever we put in to it, on top of what is already in reddit.less, right?

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I think so too, it's organized very well now to do that! I think it'll be slick.

I wrote a post about the next goals just to re-orient ourselves since we've made so much progress: https://antiextremes.com/r/AntiExtremes/comments/35/time_till_live_ideas_for_the_future/

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[–]d3rr[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll tackle the sidebar thing next.. I think that's really going to work great with browsing a sub and clicking into individual posts and coming back out.

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Brilliant! It works wonderfully. Amazing.

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[–]d3rr[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

/u/magnora7 so chat is fixed, you will always be in the correct chat channel now. The client technically switches channels when it needs to but it happens nice and quick.

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In case the user name mentions aren't working, check this out: https://antiextremes.com/r/AntiExtremes/comments/30/first_edits_to_css/

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

good deal, awesome

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i was installing the ssl cert for the chat client... it should be good to go now. when the server restarts like what just happened sometimes you have to send "/connect" once or twice to get back on, and maybe go back to the channel with the left menu.

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

now the chat says 'antiextremes.com refused to connect' and is disabled

edit: nevermind it's working again

edit 2: nevermind it's now loading the client, but not connecting to the server, and still occasionally won't load the client

edit 3: working fine now

edit 4: now it's cycling between all the previous edits' states... strange

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

beautiful! We did it. Good teamwork. :)

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

nice! it works! use incognito or restart chrome.

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

there, I put the whole /letsencrypt/ folder on home/reddit

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh okay, I'll copy those over, I'll just copy everything in the folder over. 2 mins

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[–]d3rr[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it looks I need your files from /etc/letsencrypt/archive/antiextremes.com/

or whatever these symlinks point to only: ls -lah /etc/letsencrypt/live/antiextremes.com/fullchain.pem

ls -lah /etc/letsencrypt/live/antiextremes.com/privkey.pem

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Great ideas, that backup idea sounds clean and easy.

I think I'm going to abandon their #CEE3F8 color banner and go for another color

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

done.

There are 4 files that were copied, cert.pem, chain.pem, fullchain.pem, and privkey.pem

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

nice, if you could copy those files to the server to /home/reddit that'd be awesome

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yay it worked. Output:

Waiting for verification...

Resetting dropped connection: acme-v01.api.letsencrypt.org

Cleaning up challenges

IMPORTANT NOTES:

  • Congratulations! Your certificate and chain have been saved at:

    /etc/letsencrypt/live/antiextremes.com/fullchain.pem

    Your key file has been saved at:

    /etc/letsencrypt/live/antiextremes.com/privkey.pem

    Your cert will expire on 2017-12-31. To obtain a new or tweaked

    version of this certificate in the future, simply run certbot

    again. To non-interactively renew all of your certificates, run

    "certbot renew"

  • If you like Certbot, please consider supporting our work by:

    Donating to ISRG / Let's Encrypt: https://letsencrypt.org/donate

    Donating to EFF: https://eff.org/donate-le

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

hahhaha done.

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're the best! I saw the directories being created as I was trying to do it, you're quite fast. Anyway, I hit enter and now it says:


Create a file containing just this data:

oA2rD9KZGE-qdPAZQPkvfu3zIRO0StrV-xsGAyGgbIQ.rXAMxWMvnktCPqO0B27MQPsWmXT6zRGILq--SyseYnY

And make it available on your web server at this URL:

http://www.antiextremes.com/.well-known/acme-challenge/oA2rD9KZGE-qdPAZQPkvfu3zIRO0StrV-xsGAyGgbIQ

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[–]d3rr[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

done

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hey I cant view chat while in fedora on firefox because of SSL issues so I'm messaging you here.

I ran:

sudo dnf install certbox-nginx

It installed correctly, then I ran:

sudo certbot certonly --manual -d antiextremes.com -d www.antiextremes.com

It seems to be working, but now it wants this:


Create a file containing just this data:

gyCHF0VPImoHdqVNOPLaennEDAGIwNJF_kUch7dWJh8.rXAMxWMvnktCPqO0B27MQPsWmXT6zRGILq--SyseYnY

And make it available on your web server at this URL:

http://antiextremes.com/.well-known/acme-challenge/gyCHF0VPImoHdqVNOPLaennEDAGIwNJF_kUch7dWJh8

Can you do that real quick please, if it's not too much trouble? I'm on fedora and can't switch over

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[–]d3rr[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I also set up a file for custom css:

cat ~/src/reddit/r2/r2/public/static/css/theme-custom.less aka /home/reddit/src/reddit/r2/r2/public/static/css/theme-custom.less

I also found out that our changes are in a git repo... (you could create a github account and push changes there to have a backup). try: cd ~/src/reddit && git status

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[–]d3rr[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Alright the new chat client is live! The subreddit has to have chat enabled, the post has to be announced/stickied, and I changed the required post text to be "chat_post_enable" (instead of "chat_kiwiirc_on").

Chat works when logged out too, but when you login/logout of reddit you are not logged out of chat. I will polish that up somehow. I will also work on getting chat in the sidebar instead.

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm almost there with Shout IRC. I got it fully working in Shout public mode, but that disconnects users and sends the IRC away message when they reload the page, like Kiwi IRC.

In private mode, Shout keeps you connected and doesn't send the away when the page reloads.. perfect for our use case. I'm just figuring out how to auto create new accounts and skip the Shout login screen. Should have something deliverable by this weekend.

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sweet.

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah that sounds pretty doable, summoning chat with a comment. I put it on my list.

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes that sounds perfect! Yay open source

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting ideas. I've never used stumbleupon, but that does sound pretty similar. I'll check it out. If it adds a lot of complication, just do it a simpler way. The main thing is that the chat is very obvious and easily accessible.

Perhaps this is more of a long-term idea, but it would be interesting if people could instantiate a chat window in the comments. Like if a hot thread gets a couple responses deep, someone could type the text "$!NEW_CHAT" or something as their comment, and it would replace that comment with an interactive shout/kiwi IRC terminal. Perhaps also even automatically creating a unique IRC room specific to that sub-sub-thread (named with a structure like "#SubredditName_ThreadName_SubTheadNumber"). Then anyone could start a live chat about anything, anywhere.

This ability to summon live chat in comments could be in addition to having the sidebar/stickied subreddit chat. I think that would be extremely cool and powerful. But that's sort of on the wish list, no rush

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah it would be very narrow. Perhaps we get rid of the listing of users in the channel, on the right side of the chat. Perhaps we could also get rid of "user joined" and "user left" notifications. So it's just like a super streamlined group chat, and people would only show up if they said stuff. That'd be ideal, anyway. Super minimalist, such that you almost can't even tell it's IRC.

Nice job figuring out shout! I look forward to seeing it in action. When you get it working, let me know the process by which you activate a chat window on a subreddit.

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It looks like the sidebar is super easy to resize! We can have a chat preference to make the sidebar bigger or 1/2 the screen or whatever. (instead of a 300px width we can use a percentage.)

Then if the irc client can handle a ton of page reloads, I think we're good. I'll also get rid of the pop up warning "Are you sure you want to leave the page?" or whatever that the chat widget does. Yay open source software.

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

so the whole chat interface would load in the sidebar? Is it wide enough there to be usable? i will get a test together. I figured out shout irc autologin.

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[–]d3rr[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

sounds doable, i think the irc web clients support disconnect / reconnect.

We could have an extreme chat mode too, where 1/3 of the screen is chat that never reloads and the other 2/3 is you browsing reddit and clicking links. Like Stumbleupon. It would break RESAE though to put the reddit site in an iframe I think. If reddit was a single page javascript app then you could have chat that never reloads while browsing different posts. Hmm..

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

chat_kiwiirc_on

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you feel like it'd be simpler to use shout-irc, then by all means use that. It looks good to me too. It just looks like you've got it so close with the kiwi IRC, you've even got the login name and chat room correctly filled in, it just needs to click the button...

On another note, I had one other idea I wanted to run by you about where to position the chat. Instead of a sticky as the first post of the sub, what if the chat was located at the top of the sidebar on the right? The same position where the "notes" box is located when admin mode is turned on, just immediately below the search bar.

It'd be neat if there was a persistent chat there, but the problem would be to keep it logged in as a person navigates around the sub. It would always be visible in every page which would be awesome! But the downside would be that it would constantly be logging people in and out of IRC as they change from page to page, which would create tons of annoying login/logout notifications.

If there was a way to prevent that through IRC settings (keeping someone's session alive for 5 seconds while they change pages) or alternately by keeping a separate HTML frame that doesn't change when the page changes...then it'd be awesome to put in the top of the sidebar. But if we can't patch that constant log in/out problem easily, then I'd say we just leave it as a sticky at the top of each sub, and people can open it in a separate tab if they want it around as they browse.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents. But please use whatever client you like the most, I'm not attached to the kiwi one, other than the fact you seem so close to having it completed! I found this page that says you can create a plugin for the kiwi client to do it, it might be worth looking at: https://kiwiirc.com/docs/scripting/client_plugins

This looks really promising. I think integrating IRC is going to be one if the breakthrough features that makes this website a novel branch-off of the reddit source.

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[–]d3rr[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nice, that looks like it will work but then we have to host KiwiIRC ourselves to make those changes. No big deal, but we have to set it up and update it ourselves.

If we're going to do all that, what about using this IRC client instead? It's more modern and simple looking imo: http://shout-irc.com

(there's one or two other projects who seem to use this same code, like lounge irc).

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Check this out about how to skip the login screen: https://github.com/prawnsalad/KiwiIRC/issues/360

First and and the easiest is to put $('.server_details button').click(); in your index.html after line 422, inside the kiwi.start() callback. This however would be overwritten if you run ./kiwi build again in future.

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[–]d3rr[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's also the issue of someone needing to register as admins for these random IRC channels or someone can swoop in and take it over or lock it or something.

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[–]d3rr[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I will look for a way to skip this "Start..." screen. Also IRC users are random every time you refresh the page. Maybe users should have a setting so they can specify their preferred IRC name (edit- I added this to user preferences, at the bottom of the first tab). There's an enable/disable chat setting in the subreddit settings too.