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[–]an-arkhos 4 insightful - 2 funny4 insightful - 1 funny5 insightful - 2 funny -  (1 child)

I don't understand why 300 million people would all pick sides in this political sitcom around 2 main actors who have never even been nominated for a Oscar, seriously the production value of this political theatre is absolutely shit, and the budget is huge.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 funny4 insightful - 0 funny5 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

the production value of this political theatre is absolutely shit, and the budget is huge

Such a good point. I feel like politicians and their financial backers live in an alternate economy. The budgets of just the campaigns are completely mind boggling. The production value may seems like shit to us, but I would guess it is spot on from the perspective of those at the top.

[–]Dragusha 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (1 child)

In your opinion what are the ramifications of both Donald Trump and GOP pols alongside Hillary Clinton and DEM pols going to jail?

Could you imagine the sheer chaos of the system? The so to speak "twin towers" of the american political environment collapsing would either lead us into authoritarianism or a new age of political discourse. In my opinion most likely authoritarianism will win out in the end

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 funny1 insightful - 0 funny2 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

Hm that's a very interesting thought.

I would be genuinely shocked if any of them go to jail though. They can all buy and pardon their way out of anything, it seems. If both go to jail, I wouldn't know what to think, honestly. I would be speechless.

[–]Vaxthrul 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

I believe that there is a particular level of critical thinking that is required, however what the school system has become doesn't allow for the time nor energy to put into this, as testing has become the focus.

These people who think more with emotion have grown up doing exactly the same thing they're doing now, and it's worked for them, otherwise they would have to adapt.

Think about participation trophies, the kids that get benched still get a trophy. That teaches them that even if they try, it's a good job. Extrapolate that to politics, and it's not so bewildering that we're at where we are.

Think about anonymity, where you have few if any consequences for what you do. Get banned? Make a new account, "haha, I that looser can't keep me out!" Then they go post this biased post about what happens and here comes the echo chamber to validate your feelings. Reinforcing this victimization is really negative when you think about it - who would honestly want a bunch of Buster Bluths?

One thing you'll notice that I harp on is that I see a lack of personal accountability. There's a fuck up, blame someone down the chain. Policies you've passed encourages police to abuse citizens? "There's a few bad apples, we'll take care of it, promise." Or how about Iran-Contra? "I cannot recall."

All public servants should report to us, but during congressional hearings they keep secret as much as they can behind closed doors. I take this as a fuck you, because we are the ones that generate wealth that allow them to be employed as public servants, and they should be beholden to our wants, not their special interests.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (4 children)

Does anyone else see this happening? Yes. I do. And believe me, I am emotionally exhausted. I'm pretty sure my "liberal" democrat friends think I am a closet Trump supporter because I don't join in on their mindless gossip. And I couldn't even guess what my "conservative" friends think of me.

Honestly, a lot of stuff around me doesn't seem real anymore, and I sometimes think I am losing my grip on reality. But my wife is kind enough to reassure me I'm still sane, and these things really are happening. The thing that keeps me level headed the most right now, though, is small day to day interactions with acquaintances or even strangers. We chat about the weather or local events, rather than national affairs. At this level of conversation everyone gets along and is pleasant.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 funny3 insightful - 0 funny4 insightful - 1 funny -  (3 children)

Glad to hear I'm not the only one seeing all this craziness. Just keep trying to reach out, I guess. Although a lot of times it's not worth it, but sometimes it is. It can be hard to judge on-the-fly when it'll be appreciated and when it won't be.

Onward and upward, friend.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (2 children)

On and up, indeed. I have been really hoping this site can draw more of the people with similar attitudes towards conversation. With the ability to follow that hierarchy of disagreement. Any chance of doing a sort of "State of the Site" post? The meta posts in the main AE sub haven't been commented on in over a week. It might be good to try to keep the conversation going about how to improve the site and how to draw some good content and conversations.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

Yeah, I've been thinking of doing a "State of the site" post, I should really do that.

We're basically overwhelmed at the moment, so it's just going to be a while as we start resolving the 100+ bugs that came up after we went live. So I expect things to basically slowly improve over the next few months, then maybe we can get out of Alpha mode and start inviting more users.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)