Prolific "radfems" being gaslighting male-worshippers

submitted by tallowcandle from self.BlackPillFeminism

For 5 out of 6 years of my identifying as a radfem it just felt wrong somehow. I felt guilty deep inside for being up in the arms about male crap ("they are socialized into it like we are!") and women's crap too (what if we don't recruit most women to our cause eventually? must I be nicer to fucking nasty trads?). I felt like something was off about "blank slate" argument when there are whole countries full of men who are ok with living in a pigsty long as they get to be slave-masters over females and when there are signs of male violence on prehistoric bones and when male animals gang rape too. I thought I was a misogynist for wanting het women to just stay the fuck away from males and teach heir daughters the same. I figured I had no place criticizing any activists, because they push petitions and plead with bigwigs, and I live in bumfuck nowhere in a country that incarcerates politically active people since forever.

Because, you know, if you went to old GC or Feminist Current or other biggish radfem platforms or blogs that's what a lot of them are pushing. They ridicule and slander any woman who refuses to project their humanity onto men and accept "patriarchy is 1000% socialization against people's will" anti-science idiocy and police each other to remain moderate and pro-breeding. They define feminist activism as cooperation with male power structures and devalue community-building and grassroots. They allow no discussion of marriage and breeding being oppressive, but do shittalk younger women from onlyfans for ruining their boys (lol). They shit on separatists for stating the obvious and have discussions on indoctrinating their daughters to be good little hets: how do I condition my daughter to accept that males are shit, but not disincourage her to date them? Should I just ban het from dating till 18 so that there is more life for the male to suck out? Should I let her get fucked by 14 to get her used to male shittiness?

And then you have those who helped to shape the community. Let's take, for example Glosswitch, a pro journalist, I remember she was reposted a fair bit. Few articles without mentioning being a proud stay-at-home boymom of 3. But she's not like other moms, she lets them wear Elza dresses! Articles stating that nearly all women breeding is the norm, so radfems must support "stay-at-home parenting" programs that in some countries only conservatives push. Apologetic articles for women's rights because we breed white boys (future taxpayers). Woman = white boy incubator, got it.

Or Gail Dines, well-known anti-porn radfem. Find her public lectures on youtube - she'll say how she loves her Nigel and how her small son changed her view of men. So she believes that porn turns men into shit, and not that porn is shit because males are shit. Her boys and menz can't be shit, she's a feminist.

Or the owner of Feminist Current. She's a productive activist, but writes articles like "i love men and wear make up and im a radfem yay" and "don't criticize other gc feminists especially me plz". She is really antagonistic against separatism, her podcast about a separatists book begins with "it's totally stupid cuz we can't expect women to say no to dick and it's bad to expect hets to be single". But the true colors only really show when she's on her youtube channel as a semi-private person. Here's a random vid on her channel I clicked on where Meghan is just being herself: The Same Drugs: Weird bodies, bad women, and flawed feminism, around minute 30: "I love men!" "Men oppressing women as a class as is just a theory!" "I've read all those books about patriarchy and they have little to do with reality!" "Women seek out objectification (so do I!) and pretend to be harassed!" "Most men want to help women to live better, actually!"

She also says that she was abused by feminists, so she surrounds herself with wonderful menz. Well, fuck, Meg, if you spoke down to any just feminist-leaning woman from your high horse and said that gaslighting nonsense she'd get a tad upset too. Why the fuck did I ever buy into any of that, Glad to find "pill" subs.

If anybody remembers sexpozzi ex-libfem pickme Lacey Green - she said that "feminism is just escapism" about her quitting to get dicked by an incel bf, and I used to think "well, your stupid non-feminism sure is! Us radicals are serious!". Well fuck, turns out that's where radfem is too.

TL;DR: a fuckton of radfems keep their Raging Feminist Conciousness in a small separate box which they put away when not in a flock, and would silence and gaslight any woman who calls out their willing cooperation. "100% Socialization" gives them an exuse to live vicariously through sons and nigels. Happy peaking day to me.

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[–]LaQueSabe_ 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Women are beyond saving. Particularly feminists, who are either blatant self-pitying cocksuckers or the same but disguised as radfems. You just know each one of these idiots don't do shit what they preach and are too coward & weak to acknowledge the harsh truth about their oppressors.

Despite appreciating some radfem theory I refuse to call myself one after all those years. I just simply don't give a fuck about it anymore. Call me blackpilled separatist. It's the only way.

[–]tallowcandle[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Het women think that they are notlikeothergirls better than other het woman who are just stupid and don't know how to trust their lives to the right men and the secrets to raising sons into Good Mentm and het radfems aren't different from libfems who choose "feminist" men and TeAcH BoyS NoT tO RaPe, and the get fucked over by both or tradcons who choose and raise Manly Providers, and get fucked over by them. Radfems may even have lower standarts, being more aware of how depraved average males are they just look at the passive potato sack and thank Mother Goddess he's probably not Chikatilo.

[–]kt0998 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Radfem ultimately isn't that different from libfem or even that radical. The idea that men can be "educated" to see women as human is so laughably naive that it should be impossible to say that in public without being mocked, but because women can't handle the truth they cling to this delusion.

I wonder how long this delusion can last? How long can we keep educating and explaining, nagging and preaching to men, until it become obvious even for the dumbest straight woman that it isn't having any effect? Hundred more years? Thousand? Million? Every single straight moid raised by feminist mothers, in society where he is force-fed libfem "education" every day, still chooses to watch porn where women are called bitches and choked until they pass out and this is basically the extent of his opinion on women. But I guess when it comes to women, denial is an endless resource.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even though I appreciate Gail Dines speaking against pornography, it is frustrating and annoying how so many radical feminists see the men in their lives as exceptions. "My son/father/husband/boyfriend/fuckbuddy is better than that!" As if men are innocent blank-slates who are corrupted by porn and society into harming women and children... Radfems treat the patriarchy like a nebulous monster hiding in the shadows, instead of a social system created and upheld by men (and enabled by women).

Radfems have no problems talking about biology when it comes to transgender people or other topics such as pregnancy, the difference in physical strength between the sexes, etc. However, they chicken out when it comes to answering why men all around the world are statistically more likely to be violent and dangerous than women. Men from different races, cultures, countries, and backgrounds all enjoy having power over women. Facing the reality that biology plays a part in men's desire for dominance is too bleak and uncomfortable for radfems; they'd rather look at their husbands, sons, and fathers as "exceptions" to make themselves feel better.

I used to identify as a radical feminist too, but I can't stand the "it's socialization!" deflection anymore either.

[–]Seekers 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Breeding is oppressive. This shit doesn't get talked about in any Feminist circle. And yes, the reasons you mentioned are why I gave up being a radfeminist too. Have you been on Spinster? The more I am there, the more I hate the hypocrisy of women who identity as radfems.

[–]storyendingnever 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The problem with labels and identity are that anyone can say they are anything, thus turning said labels into meaningless bullshit. We need labels to some extent, but in this day and age where any idiot can rant publicly, what the hell is the point of 'identifying'.

I used to call myself a 'radical feminist' until I realized I shared the platform with breeders, heteros, bisexuals and other dude-fuckers. As I've written about before, the more males you have in your life, the more diluted your 'feminism' becomes. You can't put women first when you've got dicks in your mouth, twat, ass and uterus, nevermind your living space ;)

[–]tallowcandle[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Wise words. In all those other women's spaces they treat modern libfem and all its faults as a product of capitalism/neoliberalism, or CIA intervention, or some mental disesase of under-25s. Fuck no, it's just a logical conclusion of willingly letting males anywhere near feminism, and half of them will be the exact liberal/marxist 'feminists' they would be 20 years ago when overt trannyism and pro-sexslavery gets banished from mainstream again.

[–]storyendingnever 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, always some excuse - yet it's the same behaviour regardless of time and place. Next year, there'll be a new manifestation of misogyny and a new bullshit reason for it. And the year after and after...

It is an ouroboros, or as I prefer to see it, the dog licking its own dick infinitum / ad nauseam.

[–]desertsky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I watched that Meghan Murphy video you're referring to. I'd tried to give MM a chance because I appreciated her non-mainstream views on a couple issues, and I got tired of the silence on those issues in other circles. But after that video I stopped watching her. The woman she interviewed wrote a piece on Quilette about how "hot" the Story of O was. A book about raping a woman to death. I honestly don't understand how MM can know everything she does and still have her views.

[–]bluetinfoilhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Calling women and pregnancy breeding is not feminist. Do you hear yourself?