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[–]kt0998 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

"Weimarica" is real. I can't have sympathy for thots. These women are making society worse for all women. Where are the articles pitying all the ugly women who have no easy choice to prostitute themselves and have to work hard in back breaking labor every day? I honestly hope there is a shift toward more conservative attitudes toward sex work and sex general and all the OnlyFans sluts and rapist porn producers are left to rot.

[–]_Moon_[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I honestly hope there is a shift toward more conservative attitudes toward sex work

I don't really see a conservative opposition to sex work, though. Or rather: I see opposition to "sex work" but a hypocritical embracement of prostitution. Conservative and right-wing men hate "sex work" but love "prostitution" just like they hate OnlyFans while loving PornHub. I suspect this is because they associate prostitution with a male pimp profiting from the sexualization of the woman but associate "sex work" with left-leaning women profiting themselves from the sexualization.

Of course, this whole distinction is bullshit. Young right-wingers seem to subconsciously buy into the left-wing myths about "good feminist" sex works. Which is why it's so common for incels to talk about how prostitution should be legalized while simultaneously hating on "sex work." Same with OnylFans. They HATE OnlyFans while masturbating to PornHub 24/7. (And if they do hate porn in general, they hate it because they see it as a (((conspiracy))) to cuck the goyim and make them accept homosexuality, not because they oppose the misogyny it is rooted in and it promotes.)

They do not hate "degeneracy" - they hate the idea of women profiting themselves from that degeneracy rather than male pimps and male producers. And traditionally, when it comes to traditional conservatism rather than to young right-wing incels, has prostitution and conservatism often gone hand in hand. It's peak virgin-whore-dichotomy. Chaste housewife at home, prostitute for the freaky sex.

If current trends continue, and left-wing culture war BS is combined with late-stage capitalism, it's probably just a matter of time until unemployed women are pushed into "sex work" if they want to receive government assistance in regards to housing, healthcare, insurance, pensions, etc. The country with the most liberal laws about prostitution seems to be Germany where they have brothels as large as warehouses where you can buy all kinds of poor women. Or boxes where women are held like cattle and men can drive into like they drive into a McDrive in McDonald's. Some German incel youtube who was banned a while ago once mad a video tour about this.

And if "sex work" is a normal job like any other job, it's just a matter of time until unemployed women will be forced to accept this type of job as well - or force to not further receive unemployed assistance and pushed into homelessness.

[–]kt0998 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Of course conservatism is hypocrisy, conservative men will always use porn and prostitutes and blame it on women. But someone on the old subreddit explained perfectly why conservative values about sexuality are still preferable to liberal ones: because it's better for society at least pretend to be decent and have some shame attached to indecency than to be openly, shamelessly indecent. Liberal society REVELS on sexual misogyny and degeneracy, every sick thing is celebrate and elevated into something noble, a form of liberation and female empowerment, sign of enlightenment and progress. In conservative society everyone at least agrees in public that men paying women to call them slurs and prolapse their assholes for their own sadistic enjoyment is NOT a good thing and shouldn't be encouraged. Sexual exploitation of women in porn/prostitution is like drug use, we can never get rid of it entirely (especially since the cause is biology), but we should always make sure it stays underground and as something illegal and shameful, because that at least prevents it from completely taking over the society. It's ultimately pointless to worry why men support or oppose something or to care about their logic in general, men always operate with misogynist logic, their strategy is always to gain power over women. Only thing that we can look at is the end result, and with "sex positive" values the results for women are catastrophic. Sexual liberation should've ended with the pill and accepting women to have normal sex lives, porn and prostitution and posting thirst trap pics on Instagram have nothing to do with normal, healthy human sexuality anymore. It's not about sexual puritanism but about privacy, sex should exist in private sphere and people should feel ashamed violating this privacy. But considering how much social media has destined the last shreds of people's sense of privacy, this will never happen.

I wouldn't be surprised if you are right and women will be pushed to accept sex work for welfare, there's already a widespread attitude that women can't be poor or have it bad because they can always just spread their legs to get ahead in life. OnlyFans makes this much worse, it's rapidly becoming expected that women should consider that as an option if they can't get other work. You don't even need state to force women into prostitution, as long as it becomes truly seen as "ordinary work" then women will be socially pressured to do it just like broke people are pressured to work in any shitty job like McDonalds or Amazon warehouses because if you don't, you deserve to starve. By the way, how do you define "late stage capitalism"? I see it as part of the "collapse fantasy" since it implies that capitalism is coming to and end and most people who use it seem to use it as cope.

[–]_Moon_[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The capitalist pauperization of the lower and middle-classes is driving more and more young women into (online) prostitution. Meanwhile:

  • the left has nothing to offer but the cynical trap of "sex work empowerment."
  • conservatives and the far-right have nothing to offer but bootstrap individualism and attacking individual women on moralistic grounds (they hate Belle Delphine while licking the boots of the billionaire class whose policies are driving more and more young women into poverty and prostitution in the first place)
  • and the extreme center has nothing to offer but #GirlBoss symbolism and "diversity": female politicians as the female mascots of a Wall Street with more female CEOs. You will struggle to pay rent, but you can feel "empowered" as a woman by being exploited by a female CEO! You may feel "empowered" - but you won't have any actual power. And you won't have any actual freedom because every actual freedom has a material basis.

Don't have kids. It's only getting worse from this point on.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Good, thots and their cunt gross