Toxic masculinity and "toxic femininity" are intertwined: women loving men and women hating men for the most cringe and BS reasons (unmasculine, bisexual, gender non-conforming, sexually undominant, etc.) are two sides of the same coin.

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[–]kt0998 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Women can't handle the truth about male nature (and female nature too) which is why the marxist "blank slate" lie is so effective on women. Deep inside they might know men are born this way, but they can never accept it because their happiness relies in believing that they can find some goodness buried inside the ugly " male socialization". Juts read any romance novels, all of them feature men who are assholes and treat women like shit until the patiently loving heroine exposes their "heart of gold" and they live happily ever after.

"Feminist porn" is a bad joke and like you said, there is no market for it. Just look at any big porn site, the most popular stuff is always the most degrading and sick misogynist content. Nothing is a bigger turn-off to men than the idea of respecting a woman.

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Juts read any romance novels, all of them feature men who are assholes and treat women like shit until the patiently loving heroine exposes their "heart of gold" and they live happily ever after.

The popularity of alpha male submissive female romance novels is the most visible proof for the hierarchical nature of human sexuality. Men get off dominating and women get off being dominated. Even though radfems may accept this, they are unwilling to extrapolate this pattern to human behaviour in general. Radfems believe whatever happens behind closed doors is exempt from scrutiny. Imo, the private behaviour of humans show exactly what evolution has made us as a species for. After all, from an evolutionary standpoint, hierarchy works well.

[–]kt0998 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Reading romance novels (which I got into accidentally because a lot of fantasy/scifi books for women are thinly veiled romance) was honestly one of the biggest blackpills for me. The sexism and traditional gender dynamics in romance novels can't be blamed on men, because the whole genre and industry is by women for women. A lot of romance/erotica nowadays is even self-published online which means there is ZERO patriarchal gatekeeping. Women literally can and do write whatever they want and then female readers choose what ends up being popular. Surprise surprise, self-published romance is even more about "rich dominant alpha rapist kidnaps the virgin heroine as sex slave" fantasies than traditionally published romance. That's basically what completely dominates (no pun intended) the bestseller lists.

If women aren't biologically attracted to male dominance and evil patriarchy just forces them into it, then where is all the demand for romance and erotica depicting equal feminists relationships without gender roles? If women are no more likely to be sexually submissive than men are, then where are the stories about women dominating men? According to feminists, there should be a growing market for both types of stories as women are now liberated to dictate their own fantasies. Instead, we see endless stream of 50 Shades of Rape Fantasy. Women raped by millionaires, by gangsters, by blue skinned aliens, by vampires etc etc. All of these stories are exactly the same with just details changed and women LOVE them. Even feminists are realizing that they can't deny this pattern anymore, which is why they shifted into claiming that female sexual submission is actually feminist and awesome and has nothing to do with the subjugation of women in society! Once they realize that women will similarly keep choosing family over career ambitions and choosing to be submissive to men in every level of society, they will claim that is also feminism and courageous rebellion against patriarchy, and then we've come full circle.

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Once they realize that women will similarly keep choosing family over career ambitions and choosing to be submissive to men in every level of society, they will claim that is also feminism and courageous rebellion against patriarchy, and then we've come full circle.

Exactly. If women don't realise the reality of their biology and if mainstream feminism continues to glorify conservative lifestyles as empowering, this is whats gonna happen. A reproduction of the '60s glorified housewife legions. Just that, this time women will be wearing the empowered tag while slaving away for man.