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[–]PatsyStone 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

This was in Glamour? Times have changed!

He’d worry that I was secretly a lesbian and just using him somehow.

This is the number one issue I have always run into- bisexuality is not really acknowledged as existing by a large swathe of the general population, so all gay women are lesbians. Some of us are really dishonest lesbians who use men for sex! I spent most of my teens and twenties being accused of being a lesbian.

They'll go for your partner rather than you as well. Try to embarrass and humiliate him and insinuate that he can't satisfy you. It's a more effective form of homophobia that accomplishes the same goal- punishing same-sex attraction.

I once dated a bisexual man, and that system was reversed. People wanted me to admit he was feminine, assumed he was sleeping with men behind my back, asked us probing questions about what bizarre kinky sex we were having 🙄 The goal seemed to be to drive us apart.

Each one of the women I’ve spoken to has explained how they still feel a debt to partners that didn’t out or humiliate them.

Humiliate for me. I've taken enough abuse, I want someone who doesn't find me repulsive or threatening. Quite a lot of men do both, much higher numbers than I think is widely acknowledged.

We experience a different form of homophobia from homosexuals. We get the brunt of disgust toward same-sex attraction, while they get the brunt of disgust toward non-conformity and lack of heterosexual attraction.

I've always thought that bisexual women get treated as horribly as we do because we are seen as tainted and less valuable than other women because of our same-sex attraction. As we often point out here, we have no good choices to make and we mostly just have to survive on our own.

[–]MarkJefferson[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This was in Glamour? Times have changed!

Ikr? And this kind of thing should be in something LGBT~ focused like Fink News; The world is backwards..

This is the number one issue I have always run into- bisexuality is not really acknowledged as existing by a large swathe of the general population, so all gay women are lesbians. Some of us are really dishonest lesbians who use men for sex! I spent most of my teens and twenties being accused of being a lesbian.

That sucks. And it doesn't seem likely to change much until the Bi movement picks back up to cauterize splinter definitions and assert our own manifestos. I don't think anyone can see anything or anyone else now other than the blinding incandescence of the T which can almost imprint onto one's retinas.

They'll go for your partner rather than you as well. Try to embarrass and humiliate him and insinuate that he can't satisfy you. It's a more effective form of homophobia that accomplishes the same goal- punishing same-sex attraction.

I once dated a bisexual man, and that system was reversed. People wanted me to admit he was feminine, assumed he was sleeping with men behind my back, asked us probing questions about what bizarre kinky sex we were having The goal seemed to be to drive us apart.

There's an ever common theme of emasculation when it comes to denigrating males. In the end, denigrating males or females is all about implying that someone behaves as the opposite sex that they are, including having relationships with the "wrong" gender.

"Throw like a girl. Drive like a women.", "Dress like a boy. Eat like a man."etc. hearing stuff like that, from a very early age.

asked us probing questions about what bizarre kinky sex we were having

Perhaps the most kinky thing imaginable: PiV

Seriously though, what one does in the bedroom is none of their damn business. It's not some exception they may make for Bisexuals.

Humiliate for me. I've taken enough abuse, I want someone who doesn't find me repulsive or threatening. Quite a lot of men do both, much higher numbers than I think is widely acknowledged.

I feel like debts should at least be from things given that are proactive and positive, not something that should be neutral like not humiliating someone. That's just basic human decency.

We experience a different form of homophobia from homosexuals. We get the brunt of disgust toward same-sex attraction, while they get the brunt of disgust toward non-conformity and lack of heterosexual attraction.

Hmm, I never looked at it this way before. Heterosexuals don't get into intimate relationships with homosexuals, so the opposite-sex repulsion aspect and gnc aspect is probably what they will see mostly; So they will concentrate on denigrating those aspects of Homosexuality. Not the case with bisexuals. They witness a lot more of the same-sex aspect with us, and react accordingly based on their social conditioning.

I've always thought that bisexual women get treated as horribly as we do because we are seen as tainted and less valuable than other women because of our same-sex attraction. As we often point out here, we have no good choices to make and we mostly just have to survive on our own.

Yeah, I think it's similar to society's devaluing attitudes towards Lesbians in a sense, but because there is no established Bi community, there are a lot less opportunities to just simply say f*** it and 'go your own way' with people who match your sexual orientation. Have to rely too much on support from either the Straight world or the Gay world.

[–]usehername 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That sucks. And it doesn't seem likely to change much until the Bi movement picks back up to cauterize splinter definitions and assert our own manifestos.

Agreed. Any thoughts on how we should do this? Currently I just confront individuals but maybe we should make some informational videos? I'd like to open a bi bar someday but that's a long-term goal. We clearly need some explicit bi infrastructure and resources. A website maybe?

[–]clitoriana 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A website and a YouTube would be perfect.