Some people really hate religion and they'll abuse their position to attack it.

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[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

This isn't about religion, this is about the communities that their religion supports, and silencing them. As an person that does not support organized religion myself, I encourage all those who are members of any congregation to openly oppose this suppression of your beliefs. The suppression of your right to organize, and your freedom of speech. To get together, and have open dialog of both the lock downs, and the privately financed riots.

[–]calmbluejay[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

So do I. The problem is that we've been taught by our church leaders that we're supposed to do whatever the government says and if there's a problem Jesus will take care of it for us.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

"So do I" Is not a logical reply to the entire comment. Or is it that you??? As for doing as your government tells you, there are at least six deep states that exist within the government and that's just surface level. Where as there are thirty three thousand denominations and independent views of Christianity and Jesus. So if the government under the control of Bill Gates and his religious eugenics ideologies deems it necessary that you take an experimental vaccine that edits your DNA rendering you no longer human, you submit? OK, well, putting aside the fact that all words of religions doctrine have been written by man, can you or your husband explain to me why the main audience hall for the Pope, is shaped like that of a viper's head?

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/11/17/the-dark-secrets-behind-the-popes-audience-hall-its-a-giant-reptilian/

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

"So do I" Is not a logical reply to the entire comment.

Actually, if you read carefully, it totally is a logical reply to your statement. u/calmbluejay is saying that she also encourages people to oppose the suppression of the right to freely assemble along with freedom of speech.

Or is it that you??? As for doing as your government tells you, there are at least six deep states that exist within the government and that's just surface level. Where as there are thirty three thousand denominations and independent views of Christianity and Jesus. So if the government under the control of Bill Gates and his religious eugenics ideologies deems it necessary that you take an experimental vaccine that edits your DNA rendering you no longer human, you submit? OK, well, putting aside the fact that all words of religions doctrine have been written by man, can you or your husband explain to me why the main audience hall for the Pope, is shaped like that of a viper's head?

This was not a logical response ironically.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

there are at least six deep states that exist within the government

The whole state is corrupt. Lol.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

I don't know who ‘they’ are in this context, I don't know what "so do I" means in the earlier statement.
As for my response, it was a series of two question that you chose to ignore. That is provided that you are u/calmbluejay ‘s husband. But I don’t know if you are, because you have entered this conversation without introducing yourself as such. Without typing out your statements in full, and relying on short hand replies, I, as you, can add any context to them we wish. In this manner our words will cease to have meaning. We will only appear to be connecting with each other while filling in the narratives on both of our ends, without expressing actual meaning. What you are currently doing, in using a broken dialog. Such short hand is the bases for George Orwell's new speak. This is how the individual loses their identity and their abilities to express themselves.
I ask of you that you, use proper nouns and descriptive nouns. “they” when several parties are being discussed is not acceptable. LOL is not communication. “So do I” is not a sentence that holds inherent meaning, when the last sentence it is being replied to does not warrant such acknowledgment. And above all else. Please answer my questions when I ask them of you. Simply echoing back my own words to me, is the equivalent of saying “I know you are but what am I” Getting back to my questions, for your benefit, here is the context for my questions:

“The problem is that we've been taught by our church leaders that we're supposed to do whatever the government says and if there's a problem Jesus will take care of it for us.”

My questions were prefaced with a statement on the complexities of both religion and the united states government, sans the statement ‘with all that in mind.’ My questions are as follows:

  1. So if the government under the control of Bill Gates and his religious eugenics ideologies deems it necessary that you take an experimental vaccine that edits your DNA rendering you no longer human, you submit?

  2. OK, well, putting aside the fact that all words of religions doctrine have been written by man, can you or your husband explain to me why the main audience hall for the Pope, is shaped like that of a viper's head? https://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/11/17/the-dark-secrets-behind-the-popes-audience-hall-its-a-giant-reptilian/

Please see fit to explain to me your position on these matters, and how that it fits into your religious views.

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    [–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I asked a question of u/calmbluejay and her husband. You chose to speak for her in the s/BiblicalSubmission sub, where:

    "This is a sub for Christian biblical male-female relationships. Here we discuss how men should be allowed to lead in a marriage and how women be his help mate."

    Alright, and with that context you chose to:

    "Honestly, I didn't read your entire post, just the first couple of sentences."

    OK, and yet I am the one who:

    "need to go back to school to substantiate your condescending 'I'm better than you' attitude with a shred of knowledge. "

    Insulting to say the least. Well at least you got this right:

    "Communication is not about just spewing out as much nonsense as you can."

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      [–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Not everything is a debate. You don't need to insult me. This isn't even a conversation you were involved in. The reference for the sub was only to provide you context for the assumption that you might be the husband, as you were speaking on her behest . If you wish to discuss this further please do so in private messages. Good night.

      [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      You don't need to insult me.

      I'm sorry. That was a completely uncalled for. I am just so frustrated by getting into arguments with you across these posts. You come across as a thoughtful guy in most posts you make and I should've made my point without insulting you. I'm sure you're not a bad guy. Sorry. I'm deleting my posts because calling you names was not appropriate.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Without typing out your statements in full, and relying on short hand replies, I, as you, can add any context to them we wish.

      I think she expressed herself better with her two brief sentences than you did with the several paragraphs you've sent me. Communication is not about just spewing out as much nonsense as you can.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      That is provided that you are u/calmbluejay ‘s husband.

      No ahahah just a random observer

      I don't know who ‘they’ are in this context

      You're overthinking it. I didn't know if she was actually a female because you come across as incredibly incoherent and I didn't know she talked about having a husband. I just thought you were rambling about something, so, I didn't know. Jesus Christ man, you're off the deep end. I'm honestly considering blocking you because you're annoying... and I really liked your posts when I first noticed your name here

      [–]calmbluejay[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Jesus Christ man,

      Just to let you know that I will not allow profanity in my sub and hostilely using Christ's name will get someone banned. This is a Christian sub and I expect everyone to behave like good Christians even if they're not Christian.

      [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Swearing in Yeshua's name is a forgivable sin.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      No I didn't use any profanity, I just called him an idiot and said his assumptions were stupid. Outside of that, I was just hostile and I apologized. Hope that is okay. I do make it a very firm point not to swear, particularly in religious contexts, so, my intent was not to be profane or vulgar. Was just genuinely interested in discussing the Bible. Questionable was deliberately pushing my buttons last night across multiple posts and it was working. I felt bad about how I lashed out at him a bit yesterday but I don't think I was making an unreasonable point, was just doing it in kind of an unreasonable way

      [–]calmbluejay[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I understand and it's ok to be passionate in a debate and it's okay to have an argument.