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[–]Fuckitall 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Can you say why you feel so? As for me, I too have been noticing radfemmy trends creeping up. Its fucking sad. But it is to be expected since the site has a lot of non-blackpilled women who discover the sub anew, without understanding basic principles.

And side note, is that why KT is not seen around nowadays in pinkpill sub? I do wonder...

[–]Nayenezgani 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

She's probably focused on real life or mostly interacting with BPF posters privately. I don't think it's much of a cause for concern because we tend to recycle the same topics sometimes. Though after being blackpilled beyond what most people would ever find acceptable, I still feel like we still have further to go. Eventually we might venture beyond anything resembling female-centered discourse, but the ultimate blackpill is that it is hopeless for everything and everybody. It encompasses all.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it is hopeless for everything and everybody. It encompasses all.

It does appear the case, when you look at the big picture.

[–]bbbarbican1 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not on that website but it's always like that. A lot of defensive new users will eventually show up. And most posters (all heterosexual, whatever they may claim) will eventually marry a man and even have babies by the time they're forty. The ones who insist they won't are very young or they're too traumatized or both. It would not even surprise me if some posters already had a husband/bf and were just blowing off steam on BPF. You can't go against nature.

[–]hunther 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It already is. Plenty of performatively men hating women are femcels and pinkpillers (read: FDS) who come to bpf just to have a quick rant why they can't find a HVM because men are shit. Then when they get their boost of validation, they'll go back to posting on those subs and leave us alone. But the moment we start holding women accountable they get triggered and tell us we are just as evil as the men who oppress us because we hate women like those. They'll get extremely defensive probs due to projection since they believe themselves to be victims and start going ape shit on our sub. It's inevitable. We can't have one fucking sub to ourselves. Women coddling cucks are everywhere and ruin the our space

[–]Seekers 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But the moment we start holding women accountable they get triggered and tell us we are just as evil as the men who oppress us because we hate women like those.

I don't get this argument. Bpf women who hold women accountable don't fantasise on raping, torturing and killing women like moids do. Our rage comes from being betrayed by our own kind. It's childish to equate the two. And also, women who get defensive about handmaidens are probably handmaidens themselves- holding other women accountable will force them to accept their own treachery, which they won't.

Anyway, glad to see you here. I hope we have some kind of space for ourselves- without moids and pickmes. But it probably won't happen.

[–]Nayenezgani 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

There are probably more people on this planet who qualify for My 600-lb Life than people who qualify as genuine BPF. I don't think feminism is a useful term to describe this ideology anymore. Feminism became obsolete to me before I even discovered this community, but what would be an apt term to replace it? Blackpill sociology/anthropology? Because blackpill efilism is somewhat tautological.

There must be other blackpill variants of various political groups too. Blackpill socialism is obvious enough even among and beyond their adherents, and there is something of a discourse regarding afropessimism. I'm really curious, however, to know what a blackpilled manifestation of a right-wing ideology would look like.

[–]Basghetti 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I read that as blackpill elfism.

I'm really curious, however, to know what a blackpilled manifestation of a right-wing ideology would look like.

I'm not sure, but that's a good question. They're on s/all, so I'll ask and post results.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

blackpill elfism

0 google results. You don't see that everyday.

[–]Basghetti 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/80a0/is_there_a_blackpilled_version_of_the_right_wing/

Results, if you're interested. Not many people have replied as of yet.

[–]Nayenezgani 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks!

I was thinking more along the lines of economic/political ideology. Despite its meme reputation, libertarian is just as utopian as socialism. After all, if humanity could achieve optimal economic/social/moral outcomes with minimal governance, what need would there be for communism? Or rather, wouldn't communism organically develop in such a society anyway? It appears to me that the essence of a good society lies in the characteristics of its individual constituents than any institutional ideology or political system -- the latter is downstream from the former. Just like most women can't overcome their biological programming, degenerate societies can't be elevated with mere policy.

But this topic has been on my mind lately because of how doomed our economic future is. If it's pathetic that women can't transcend their own weakness or fight back against oppression, then what does that imply about people around the world who refuse to do anything meaningful against the oligarchy? We just complain on the internet and on the phone, post memes, and continue to buy things from Amazon. It would be nice to get in touch with blackpill socialists.

Edit: Grammar.

[–]Basghetti 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It appears to me that the essence of a good society lies in the characteristics of its individual constituents than any institutional ideology or political system -- the latter is downstream from the former.

Exactly. Those systems go on trustworthiness of each person within your society. I would think a collectivist mindset would be the necessary start, and Westerners are generally more individualistic. Some talk big game about how selfless they are, but many of those people have lived very pampered lifestyles to a point where I think they almost fetishize oppression and suffering of the groups they claim to speak for. If many of them were placed into a lifestyle that required them to give up their conveniences and care more about the group that they're in than themselves, they would crumble easily. Humans adapt, but adapting from the levels of spoiled degeneracy that our societies have made it to would weed out the weaker willed majority. You still see "the fight" in the eyes of lower class/poverty stricken people, and even a dedication to their groups, but many would still turn a blind eye for the whiff of a chance to escape their own hell. I think you're right though, degenerate societies can't be changed, definitely not on policy alone. I might get shit on, but violence works and has worked to keep the population in line as the absolute easiest method of maintaining societal standards. It doesn't take away degeneracy though, it just hides it. The question is how do you create a population of people that genuinely care about their community in every aspect, enough to where they aren't forced to give up anything but willingly do so for it? How do you ensure genuinely good people at all that wouldn't take advantage of the state of the group and manipulate things within for personal gain? Greed is seemingly a very base human drive that acts as a motivator.

what does that imply about people around the world who refuse to do anything meaningful against the oligarchy?

They're distracted enough by the convenience and cooming to just make it through. There's a possibility that the majority of the population isn't capable of thinking about it, like they're stifled in some sort of way that they'll do whatever mental gymnastics are necessary to rationalize that those in power are bad (I've seen some people even deny that much), but don't do anything about it. Those that do understand how bad things are won't fight because of the fear of losing. We see what happens to the dissidents, and we quietly creep back into our hovels and shitpost instead. It requires a considerable amount of power to create change, or incredible manipulation game with enough people in high enough places to back a common goal and won't stray. It's hard to find people willing to discuss a lot of things talked about here, even harder to find people respectable enough to create solid friendships with, so I don't know how easy it would be to find blackpilled socialists in group form that isn't riddled with degeneracy. I say that because there are many people that just succumb to base desires to feel complete, or feel anything at all, once they feel too misanthropic about life.

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    [–]Nayenezgani 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    So many people bullied La Polaca because they thought she was a male troll, but she's one of the most blackpilled posters around here. I guess she would be getting harassed over there too if she joined.

    [–]Fuckitall 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    Are you referring to Palma?

    [–]Nayenezgani 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    Yes. Funnily enough I felt like there was a major male presence here over a month ago, but it wasn't her.

    I don't agree with everything she says, but many people here are not realistic about things like the GMVH or the necessity of stereotypical masculine traits like mathematical aptitude. If we were as talented as scrotes, why would they even continue to exist?

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      [–]Basghetti 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      I'll link you a study in the meantime. I'm not sure what her internet or personal situations are, and she can answer you herself when she's back, but this is just some information to read on it to be informed to discuss in better detail.

      https://largescaleassessmentsineducation.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40536-019-0070-9

      [–]Nayenezgani 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      That's what I was referring to, thanks!

      [–]Seekers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      So true. It has already turned into one, with users claiming bpf is radical feminist🥲