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[–]Mnemonic 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I don't like Switzerland so here goes:

https://nordvpn.com/blog/surveillance-practices-in-switzerland-an-overview/ (2017)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/25/switzerland-votes-in-favour-of-greater-surveillance (2016, about that surveillance increase and the people of swiss wanting it)

Protonmail is based in Swiss because of the Privacy laws, which is something different. Basically something todo with your PMs and account login only. These privacy laws are not protecting your freespeech as it's used when you post/comment on saidit, it's public, like you can't claim privacy when you yell BOMB on a airplane and expect to get away with 'I said the following message is for my friend, you all could have ignored it'. For the use of saidit I would say it's a meh+, like nice to have but basically useless unless you use saidit as a PM service to conduct illegal activities and then it's not as setup as Protonmail so you're 'dun goofed' anyway.

Side note:

How do these 2 countries handle that the owners are not in their country and (probably) were not there for the contracts? I have no clue about this but I know for the infamous Swiss-banking thingie you need to be in Switzerland IIRC.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for some anti-switzerland links, to even things out a bit.

I don't expect anywhere in the world we'll be 100% protected, it's just about doing the smartest thing we can do for the long-term survival of this site.

And I know you can do the swiss-banking thing without living there, my grandfather did it and we had to retrieve everything stored in his account there after he died, and it was incredibly complex to retrieve and did involve a trip to switzerland.

[–]Stoner 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How do these 2 countries handle that the owners are not in their country

Afaik there's only special rules if you want a .no domain.