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[–]Musky 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You ever couldn't fall asleep for a week straight just cause you couldn't stop thinking about things? Anything, everything. There is also depressing stuff like the knowledge of our impending deaths, I mean the totality of it all, and our utter insignificance in the grand scheme of things. It's better not to think about things we can't change anyways. Eat, drink, be merry.

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I used to inflict wakefulness on myself intentionally, face the sense of impending doom head on. It's invigorating. But I would use the old trick for avoiding bad trips, repeatedly tell myself that I am invincible. A marvelous trick so long as you avoid staircases and moving vehicles.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I just can't stop thinking sometimes, and if my brain doesn't stop, I can't sleep. It has been a very long time since I actually wanted to pull an all nighter, let alone a week long experience of minor but annoying hallucinations. I tolerated lack of sleep far better when I was younger.

The first sign I have been up far too long is I start hearing music - that one is actually kind of neat sometimes, depends what's playing. Once it was an ad for a monster truck rally over and over (SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY! COME SEE BIG FOOT DESTROY GODZILLA ), but usually it's stuff I enjoy. That can happen in as little as 24hrs now. Didn't use to come on so soon.

Day 2-3 is minor visual hallucinations. Just annoying corner of your eye, flicker stuff. But they get worse. I remember on maybe day 5 constantly turning to speak to my wife although she wasn't there, but I kept seeing her rather vividly from my peripheral.

And I'm pretty useless during all of this. It's also a lot of alone time when you're up for every moment. The body doesn't heal itself. Things get sore. You have to rest just because the body begins to wear out, but you still can't sleep.

And some point your thinking is totally garbled, it's progressive. The mind isn't meant to be awake that long.

Fuck yes I want to slow my roll with some cannabinoids. Insomnia gets old. I used to hate when I only got 4 hours of sleep until I stopped getting that. It's just toking, there's a number of sleep hygiene things I do as well. One of the most important seems to be daily early morning sunlight, resets the body's clock perhaps.

My sleeping has been okayish lately. I'd really like to keep it that way.

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I worked 12hr night shifts for 10 years, in that time I was a heavy smoker, a habitual user of potent stimulants, and mixed up different ways of gettin ginto and out of bed downing 4 redbulls every night to wake up and pills to get me back to sleep.

The human body is kinda dumb in some respects. Every chemical process is somewhat connected to other processes making it difficult to target a single thing. Like, you can dose up on a GABA agonist like benzos to get to sleep but it will also affect other systems such as memory retention and recall, digestion, motor function etc. Same goes for SSRIs, pain killers etc.

Sleep itself is a fairly stable function but is easily disrupted by our modern activity and habits. You.can accidentally prevent sleep through many means. Nicotine, theobromine, sugar, alcohol, substance withdrawal, use of bright screens, lack of physical activity, and of course the simple one, caffiene. On the flip side, artificially inducing sleep will make sleeping dependant on the substance to pass out in the future. I've tried opiates, cannabinoids, dissociatives, benzos, herbal remedies, antihistamines, and my absolute favourite, stimulant exhaustion. No matter what you take, the body gets used to it quickly and will need and want more the next time.

After giving up benzos and nicotine cold turkey while still on nights, I learned quick to deal with the usual sleep deprivation hallucinations, the memory problems, the physical debilitation. But it passed in mere weeks. A great trick to calm the mind is to picture an object, focus on the whole object, like a bicycle. Zoom into a smaller area of the object, a wheel. Inspect it. Zoom into the tyres, visualise the texture. Zoom into the air valve. Repeat this and the mind will calm and you will sleep with less noise.

You are right about the sun resetting the body clock. Night shifters have higher instances of diabetes, in part because they eat irregularly. When the sun comes up they get hungry. If you pull all nighters, you disrupt your body clock.

Interestingly, even some minor things can affect sleep. Taking vitamin d before sleep can disrupt it, whereas taking it every morning can help stabilise your sleep.

Detoxing is a wonderful thing. Trust me, after taking over 50 different psychoactives, mostly stimulants, sleep is not something that you magically fix with adding more and more substances, it's the opposite.