If slavery was so bad why didn't they just run away?

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Sure there were punishments but they're already forcing you to work 20 hour days in the blazing sun while whipping and buck breaking you. I think slavery was like what the Boondocks depicted it as and the DEMONcrats are just using bad history to keep blacks on the democrat plantation.

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[–]Drcolossus 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I am pretty sure that plenty of slaves did run away and they were subsequently hunted down beaten and/or hanged in front of the other slaves. This would send a very powerful message to the other slaves. Most prisoners chose a shitty life in a cage over the finality of death.

Even if the slave did manage to evade the bloodhounds of a particular slave owner. I think it would be next to impossible to make it all the way to the northern states without someone identifying you as a runaway slave.

It's not like they could change their skin color to blend in. So basically any black person roaming the country side was fair game for anyone willing to capture them and sell them back to the plantation.

[–]Zapped 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. If you were black and walking around without a chaperone in the South, you either had to be a free man known to the community or needed a paper from the slave owner letting people know the slave was trusted and allowed for that particular trip. Some owners would let their slaves go on dates to neighboring plantations. My guess as to why they didn't run away more often is that they were either, like you said, treated very harshly, or they accepted what they were born into. Reading and writing was usually not permitted, so that kept their communications and options to a minimum. Also, some slaves were treated somewhat like family. Well, family that was forced to stay on the plantation. It also seems like the farther south you were, the harsher the slaves were treated and the harder it would have been to escape through slave territory into the free North.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But consider this: no farm, even with zero equipment has 24/7/365 labor to do. There is planting season and harvesting season that requires hard, long backbreaking labor. Sure it's not a lie to say that at some point a slave would work 20 hours a day. But to omit the fact that for the majority of the year that was far from reality IS a lie.

To omit the fact that slaves drag thier feet, as literally every human in slavery would, is a lie of omission. They aren't breaking thier backs working as hard as a farmer who works for himself. Nor should they, but to imply they did is a lie.

I'm not calling you a liar, but most of what you have learned about history, and slavery in particular, came from liars.

I agree with you that slaves must have run away, as I would have done that even if the conditions were not terrible. If only because I would imagine that I could become a Master if only I were free. And there is certainly evidence that run away slaves were hunted, and rewards were paid.

But I also agree with the core premise that slavery was not what it is portrayed in media.

Just food for though, not an argument to your point.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

This is why slavery wasn't economically viable in the end. Not only did you have an underperforming workforce you had to pay to feed and house you then had to pay a load of people watch them all the time to make sure they kept working. It's actually not that different to what happened in soviet Russia. Then you start paying people to watch the people watching the workers.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And yet slavery still exists. Sweatshops exist.

It would seem viable, if not efficient. I think people generally underestimate the intelligence that is required to automate. But eventually slavery should be not viable for economics as the intelligent people get around to automating everything.

It will probably always exist in the 3rd world.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sweatshops aren't anything like slavery.

That's just an area where the cost of labour is worth less to the employer than minimum wage. There are a lot of jobs like that which is why employers are replacing them with tech where possible. If you take such a job you usually have other issues which mean you don't mind earing less, such as having a husband who works.

Where slavery exists is in very poor counties where working for food and lodgings isn't considered a bad deal and among the very rich, like the Arab princes, where they can just keep paying wages for endless shit staff without any worry of the cost.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jews also marked you with their familys stamp so that you couldn't move around freely.

[–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (25 children)

https://files.catbox.moe/14gd9e.mp4

Jews did slavery, not whites

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

Jews did slavery, not whites

Every single culture and ethnic group in history has had slavery, there isn't a single people that haven't taken slaves

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Watch the video

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Ephesians 6:5-8 Paul states, “Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ”

Read the bible, Paul is a christian

[–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Slavery in the bible is not the same as jewish slavery in America.

Females slaves have the right to free food, clothes and marriage, and if any of those aren't provided, they can leave without paying anything and be free.

Slavery in the bible is more akin to work contracts today but with other benefits.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It was still slavery. But their laws look to me more like "fine, you guys can have slaves, but there's going to be some restrictions".

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's more like you have to take care of this person now and provide for him/her.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Did the Lot tale get you into reading the bible?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Yeah, my interest was kind of rekindled by that and other conversations here on Saidit. I'm not Christian, but these stories are fascinating, and tell us a lot about the history of our culture and values. My favorite stories are The Garden of Eden, and Cain and Abel, these are really profound and full of metaphors about the nature of humanity

[–]Musky 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

. I'm not Christian

Are you Jewish? 😮

My favorite is proverbs, the wisdom of King Solomon and others.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Are you Jewish?

😂

I'm not much for organized religions. There is an underlying order to the universe, and natural laws that might come from somewhere. I'm not against calling that God or The Gods, or anything spiritual, but think organized religion is created by man, and often very inconsistent with my own ideas about this.

For example, Jesus says to turn the other cheek. Natural law and game theory says morality is based on tit-for-tat, and without disincentivizing these bad behaviors, we get more of them. The entire premise of justice is based on consequences for doing the wrong thing, not in the afterlife, but in this life. If a man strikes me, I ought to strike him back equally, or he will think he can strike my neighbor as well, and will continue until someone does. I'm also pretty sure if God exists, he isn't a petty jealous paternalistic tyrant as depicted in the old testament, these are people's ideas about God and morality, and like many other peoples ideas, i dont think these are very good ones imho.

I think morality and natural laws exist, and if they comes from God, they wouldn't look anything like organized religion tells us they do. My god wants me to obey the natural laws, not for HIS benefit, but for my own and my fellow mans, so things can be better for all, including me

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

Are you Jewish?

😂

I'm not much for organized religions.

So the answer is yes.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Lmao, no dude, I'm not Jewish, you must be really obsessed with Jews to read that into my comment

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, Jesus had it right. The natural order is evil.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That sounds like the NAP to me, not a condoning of slavery.

Paul heavily condemns slavery in Galatians, and pressures Philemon's master to free him.

[–]WhenImBanned 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You happily bought it from them so you share the blame. As a matter of fact your system and your people are what allowed the degeneracy pushed by the Jews. If the people never accepted it, your society would have not decayed. Westoids are such brats never accepting responsibility and their own mistakes.

[–]Dragonerne 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You didn't watch the video. Jews owned the slaves, jews changed the laws allowing slavery, jews owned the slaveships, jews bought the slaves from african tribes who sold their own to the jews, and whites made slavery illegal because it is an awful institution.

You're a racist and antiwhite brat.

But you're right that it was a mistake tolerating jews.

[–]WhenImBanned 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm not anti-White, I'm anti-West. I know that the Jews owned slaves and you happily bought it from them so you can't give them all the blame for something you happily participated in. You bought it from them, you treated them like animals, you're just as guilty. Common sense. And I don't think slavery is inherently evil. There is a way to make it work without treating the slaves less than human, which the West certainly didn't do.

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

and you happily bought it from them so you can't give them all the blame for something you happily participated in. You bought it from them, you treated them like animals, you're just as guilty.

Antiwhite piece of shit propaganda.

Whites made it illegal, we didn't mistreat anyone. Jews did.

[–]WhenImBanned 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Okay right wing snowflake.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When you blame the "west" for slavery, when you blame the west for "bombing the middle east" etc. You are attacking whites who are victims of jewish supremacy and jewish rule.
Your hatred of the "west" instead of jews, the ones responsible, can only be ascribed to your hatred of white people. A hatred likely given to you by jewish movies, jewish social media and jewish media.

You're right that I am a snowflake. I don't like your hatred against me and you should apologize for being rude towards white people.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

/u/whenimbanned ..

Tell me the story about how Muhammad (peace be upon him) received a visit from an angel in a cave?

[–]David_Allen_Cope1 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Based house-nigger.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is why slavery always becomes extremely brutal, to stop slaves just running away you have to make the punishments worse than death.

Also where are you going to run away to if 100 miles in every direction is slave owning culture. There's a reason the runaway slave network in the US was called the underground railroad. They had to get them out of there fast. Without modern tech covering the distance before getting caught was pretty much impossible.

[–]WhenImBanned 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

How could you not figure out the answer to this on your own?

[–]IndianaJones 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

kek

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Because they would be tortured if they ran away, even worse than they already were.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Imagine this as a parent.

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Human beings never will "become" property, no matter how big your letters or your personal level of retardness are.

    [–]japanboy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Just wait until you are starving, you will trade your freedom for a bowl of rice.

    When you want success, you will enslave others for your own success.