How can I put my trust in Jesus knowing he was a dirty Jew?

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[–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Jesus wasn't a jew. He was a judean.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Jesus wasn't a jew. He was a judean fictional character.

Fixed that for you.

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Jesus wasn't a jew. He was a judean fictional character.

Possibly fictional, but references to him by Josephus and others, combined with a lack of any credible denials of his existence by groups it would benefit make me inclined to bet that he probably existed. Now I don't think he was born to a virgin or resurrected or any other such obviously syncretic mythology with a much earlier origin than Jesus, but I'm inclined to believe there was probably a religious leader amongst the commoners that these myths are based on.

Some guy said he was the chosen one and called himself 'the christ', and acquired a following in a particular area (Israel)at a particular time in history (about 2k years ago). There really isnt much here for me to be incredulous about, sounds like pretty typical human history

The part I'm incredulous about is basing your entire worldview on the idea that these myths are literally true 2000 years later

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It may be plausible, although all writings by humans should be considered questionable. Norse, Greek, Egyptian and Hindu religions speak of hundreds of divine figures, how do we determine the validity of each? If it is my other written witness of the time, then we should have to consider the existence of many other individuals through ancient history that shed doubt upon the common pop-religions of today.

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Norse, Greek, Egyptian and Hindu religions speak of hundreds of divine figures, how do we determine the validity of each?

I don't think there are any 'valid' divine figures. I regard any christian accounts of Jesus to be mythical, I just think it likely these myths were based on a historical figure. This isnt uncommon, Egyptian pharaohs were thought to be divine, which is absurd, but I wouldn't claim the pharaohs didnt exist historically, clearly they did, and claimed to be divine as many people have throughout the course of human history

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Ah, fair assessment. I agree this likely to be the case.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think the gnostics had it right. Not the bizarro ones but those who recognized the sad state of the world and how it's run by malevolent entities.