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[–]Vulptex 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

A site full of trolls dedicated to making fun of lolcows. They got away with doxxing people for years and it was apparently all fine and dandy, but then when they criticized a trans person that was too far.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This wannabe-gamergurl from Canada. Who then went to Thailand... All so surprisingly well documented on the internet.

(Not purely for attention-whoring... this is wrongthink !)

As far as i read into it.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

muh doxxing muh privacy

[–]cars 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Kiwi Farms was originally started as the CWCki Forums, a meeting place for Chris-Chan trolls. Chris-Chan was the first internet lolcow, but at some point Null/Josh Moon took over the site and expanded its focus to lolcows other than Chris-Chan and renamed the site Kiwi Farms. The site began to discuss other lolcows like Pamperchu, Jace Connors, Andrew Dobson, as well as internet drama in general. Kiwi Farms is not politically driven or far right -- it's a place for users from all across the political spectrum to discuss lolcows; several right-wing figures like Ethan Ralph, Nick Fuentes, and Donald Trump have threads on Kiwi Farms. Additionally, Kiwi Farms frowns upon people who try to directly interact with lolcows or devise trolling plans -- it could be said that users there are bound by a Prime Directive not to interact with lolcows.

Kiwi Farms is unique among other internet drama sites like r/subredditdrama and Know Your Meme because it allows free speech and the publishing of lolcows' personal information. Because the site allows free speech and Null himself is gender critical, lots of trans people like Yaniv began getting threads and subforums. This is eventually what led to Cloudflare dropping Kiwi Farms' .net domain -- a thread was made on a very terminally online, very well-connected trans activist who used their connections to start a Twitter campaign to get Cloudflare to drop Kiwi Farms all because this one trans activist let their thread live in their head rent-free.

[–]brimshae 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

a thread was made on a very terminally online, very well-connected trans activist who used their connections to start a Twitter campaign to get Cloudflare to drop Kiwi Farms all because this one trans activist let their thread live in their head rent-free

You left off the part where the thread was calling out the tranny for being a child predator.

[–]cars 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, true. That's why they hated that thread.

[–]fatman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jace Connors

We were his lolcows

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I have seen them describe themselves as an e-gossip site, they follow internet personalities, and often criticize them. Some have been doxxed, 3 suicided although it's kind of dubious what role Kiwi Farms played.

[–]cars 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At least 2 of the 3 suicides aren't related to Kiwi Farms. Julie Terryberry committed suicide because of a relationship she was in; it was just a coincidence that she happened to have a Kiwi Farms thread. Near/Byuu hasn't been confirmed dead, but if he did commit suicide due to what people were saying about him online, Kiwi Farms wasn't at the center of it -- his thread was a tiny, relatively inactive, 13-page thread before his suicide.

[–]Alienhunter 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Kiwi farms is like a gossip board. They find stupid people on the internet who cause drama and document it. It's like, TMZ for internet junkies. They're the internet paparazzi.

Which also means sometimes they stir the shit for fun.

[–]aHobbitsTale 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some of the usual stuff you see on here, about how the Jews control the world, casual homophobia, etc. Didn't seem to much be a point of conflict for them, and wasn't related to the purpose of the site. Not a place for the easily offended. That sort of stuff was just "there." Think like 4chan banter.

Diligent archivists.

KF may have smelled of shit, but so were the people they focused on. Seemed to target the most egregious bad actors on the internet. They didn't have it out for just your random person.

[–]Site_rly_sux 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Have you ever been in a love/hate relationship with an online content producer - where you consume and pore over their content because you hate it so much.

Well, KF is a place where you can join with other obsessive stalkers to talk about various internet personalities' home addresses, anything that's known about their families or personal lives. Really shining a magnifying glass on their most embarrassingly earnest content.

I guess one comparison I have in mind is celebrity blinds or Perez Hilton style blogs, where authors who totally hate a celeb will snark over their lifestyles for hours and hours.

The particular flavour of KF that was different to Perez Hilton bloggers are the level of obsessive stalking, plus, the target selection.

Preferred by KF are anyone who is earnest in their vulnerability. You don't just have to have some vulnerability like being openly trans. You have to be earnest about it, perhaps a campaigner, someone who can draw attention then say something while it's held.

The term "lolcows" in my mind means, anyone who is embarrassingly earnest in their vulnerability. Then the KF forums pull together to obsessively detail their victims lives with no limit, become quasi -stalkers, and talk about the fantasies of what they'd like to do to their victim targets.

[–]grassfed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

vulnerability

🤢

embarrassingly earnest in their vulnerability

🤮

You need to spend more time with troons.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Well KF doesn't target straight male bodybuilders for harassment does it? How would you define their target selection process, then?

Given your very public comments on your history of incent and child abuse - isn't that a vulnerability you think they could target you for?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

How would you define their target selection process, then?

Sounds like they go after creeps and pedos.

Well KF doesn't target straight male bodybuilders for harassment does it

Those guys are made fun of on Reddit openly, go read the bodybuilding subs.

Given your very public comments on your history of incent and child abuse - isn't that a vulnerability you think they could target you for?

Lol, don't be a faggot, dude.

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    [–]Site_rly_sux 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    1. I have no idea who socks is but people keep saying I am he, so he must have been a wicked smart dude

    2. I didn't say u/Muskrat is an abuser - I said that he was abused. This was revealed in a long conversation I had with muskrat. I have evidence and proof of what muskrat's drunk mom used to do with him, it's there in duckduckgo if you want to verify it.

    3. I have a standing offer open to any and all members of saidit, I am happy to video chat with anyone on here so you can see who I am and judge for yourselves. Weirdly nobody has taken me up yet. I am vacationing this week so timing will be awkward but still possible. I'm on WhatsApp and discord and whatever folks want to video chat on.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I have no idea who socks is but people keep saying I am he, so he must have been a wicked smart dude

    You have very similar ideologies and personalities, it's not a good thing.

    [–]Saidity 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    it's not a good thing.

    WTF is wrong with you?

    Whatever that guy wants to say is his business - and you can see that he contibutes a lot to Saidit discussione recently. And you also know very well that I am socks and he is not. Saidit loses users because of bullying by users like you. Cut it out. You of all people know very well who socks is and why I change my usernames regularly. None of my usernames last longer than a few days. You know why you should not bully users.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Absolutely nothing is wrong with me, I am just as the good Lord made me.

    Saidit loses users because of bullying by users like you

    What bullying?

    You of all people know very well who socks is and why I change my usernames regularly.

    Yeah, cause you keep breaking the rules and causing problems.

    [–]Saidity 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I'm merely stepping in to the conversation because you're bullying the other user. Cut it out and I go away. I've not caused any problems, as you know. Get over yourself.

    [–]Saidity 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I've responded to Mastermustard and to Muskrat confirming that I am socks, and can continue responding to bullies when necessary in due course. I recommend that you do not let anyone know anything about you. They will continue to dox you. I will PM you information on how to reach me in the event of the bullying in the future. Best wishes for your vacation.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You may be right, certainly seems Socksy.

    [–][deleted]  (10 children)

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      Oh Hi Socks. Reported for ban evasion.

      the comment should be more imporatan than its writer

      We should shun people of bad character and ignore their counsel, it's fruit of the poisonous tree.

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        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        That was unnecessarily hostile. Shame on you.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        Blessed is the man
        who walks not in the counsel of the wicked,
        nor stands in the way of sinners,
        nor sits in the seat of scoffers; (Psalm 1:1)

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          [–]QueenBread 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          A site full of trolls and doxxers. And nobody cared about it. Then those very same trolls and doxxers started exposing pedophiles and the harm of the trans lobby. And that's when suddenly everybody cared and they had to be silenced.

          [–]GB43 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          What country is Josh Moon currently living in?

          [–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          they're just one of a million nameless shit-talking websites that like to gather and make fun of internet weirdos.

          no one really cared about them until they committed the internet sin of making fun of an extremely narcissistic troon, who then herded his fans to DDoS the site and harass its network host into dropping them. when that didn't work they faked a bomb threat.

          the collective result of all this drama is that more people than ever know about KF and that keffals was a fart porn actor.

          [–]geoferdy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          The only site on the internet that had the banned footage of the New Zealand mosque shooting attack that has been suppressed by every mainstream media organ and website in the world.

          [–]dissidentrhetoric 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          It was a forum, i think the admin said he was going to release the 7gb site on a torrent if can't get it back up, then they will host it on decentralised solution. I don't think they will stop it