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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Depends on where Dave comes from. If he has a Creator then I would worship his Creator. If not, I would worship him, because he is clearly superior to us in wisdom; not even Isaac Newton could figure out the secret design of the universe.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Interesting, we have reliance on the knowledge available in order to determine the hierarchy of superiority of the creator. Say Dave was the son of Bob and Linda, would Dave still have a special place in worship for being the actual designer of the universe despite Dave being brought into existence by another?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If Dave was created he wouldn’t be the supreme being, God.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Must there be a single divine entity? Could there not be several Dave type god's which exist together?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

However many entities there are, if they had no Creator, they are one God as a system.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm led to an inevitable conundrum that I try to avoid asking. For a god to not have a creator, would this imply spontaneous existence of the god, or that the god itself was subject to a form of evolution? Or would you seem the evolutionary process to be a method of creation, therefore voiding the classification of a god?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

God can't have a beginning still be God. Time would be greater than the supreme being, so God wouldn't be supreme.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The question would remain, what exactly is a god? This is an entity beyond all known dimensions, exist without creation itself and be exist not as any comprehensible form. It would seem likely that Dave would not be able to exist at all without there being conditions present to exist.

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A lot of posts recently feeling like the modern equivalent to the old debates under the Church in the Middle Ages regarding "How Many Angels Can Dance on the Head of a Pin?" These posts say far more about those of us engaging with them than they say about the underlying issue - Creation - which given that it occurs on a dimension beyond our own (by definition, because we are a subset of the creator's reality), can never be understood by humans, only batted about endlessly as an amusement for our ever-crazy monkey minds.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These posts say far more about those of us engaging with them than they say about the underlying issue - Creation

Quite right, the question focusing on the individual response to different circumstances and our relationship with a possible higher power. Would we react differently if the creator were not as spectacular or as unique as per expectations, would it be a disappointment or lead to disillusion?

The actual question of a creator existing is futile as per our monkey brains, and while I personally reject the concept, it is an entertaining line of discussion.