do you believe in god

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Yes. The existence of a Creator of the universe is obvious if you have critical thinking skills and understand the philosophy of physics.

Perhaps the term supernatural is misleading. Spiritual might be better explained as a higher dimensional existence than the physical universe.

[–]Hel 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

So everything needs a creator except The Creator?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Yes, there has to be a first cause otherwise we have an infinite regression. Just like how you can’t prove anything in math without having unprovable axioms as the base case.

[–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

If not everything needs a creator why posit one to begin with?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Everything doesn't need a creater. Everything that moves requires a cause, except for the first mover, that does no require prior cause. Even in an eternal universe the cycle cannot begin without a first mover, without whom there is no change in the system.

Not posit, prove.

[–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Eternal means no beginning and no end, so you contradict yourself when you say “in an eternal universe the cycle cannot begin”.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Could have existed forever but nothing would change because each effect would depend on a prior cause. The only thing that could set it in motion is a first cause, which by definition is not caused by anything else.

[–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

If the universe has always been changing then by definition there wouldn’t be a first cause

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

How can the universe always be changing if every event is dependent on being caused by something else? Without that cause it cannot cause anything else and is static

[–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Having no first cause is the nature of being eternal.