Why do americans pride themselves on free speech when their internet is the most censored in the world?
submitted 1 year ago by yabbit from (self.AskSaidIt)
It's not even the government doing it the citizens quash discussion themselves.
[–]iamonlyoneman 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun - 1 year ago (11 children)
censorship, by definition, is a government activity. learn what words mean before attempting to dunk on people better than you
[–]weavilsatemyface 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 1 year ago (2 children)
censorship, by definition, is a government activity
No it isn't. "Censorship" is the suppression of speech, public communication, or any other information. It doesn't matter who does it, or whether it is justified or not, it is still censorship. That is why we can have
etc. They're all different forms of censorship, whether the government is involved or not.
The so-called "liberal" left is subcontracting out censorship to private companies like Twitter (which is why they went insane when Elon Musk bought control of it) and the mainstream media. The government doesn't need to censor when they can leave it to private industry.
[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (1 child)
You have been bamboozled. People ignoring and not wanting to boost you are not censorship.
[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
People ignoring and not wanting to boost you are not censorship.
I never said it was. Your reading comprehension has failed. Subcontracting out censorship to private companies is not "people ignoring you".
This idea that only government censorship is censorship is as idiotic as the idea that only governments can wage war, as if mercenaries don't exist, as if human tribes haven't waged war on each other for millennia.
Seriously dude, "only governments can censor" is 100% woke propaganda.
[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (7 children)
by definition
how about you actually look up a dictionary retard? BY DEFINITION censorship doesn't need government at all.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/censorship
also, you're naive as all hell if you think the US companies are not just a proxy for the government. Do you not know the connection between darpa's lifelog and facebook? https://i.postimg.cc/jK2Z26xV/suckerberg.png
[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (6 children)
many such cases
[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (5 children)
moving the goalpost
Use any dictionary and you'll get the same result idiot. Stop licking the boots of big tech.
[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (4 children)
licking the boots of big tech
LOL i'm old enough to remember when Google changed their definition of fascist to include Trump supporters
[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (3 children)
Which makes you what, 19? Stop this bullshit shooting yourself in the foot with redefining censorship and just use the word normally. It means suppressing, hiding or destroying information, regardless of who does that.
[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (2 children)
or you could admit you don't know what it means and leave the room
[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 1 year ago (1 child)
more indirect defense of big tech
go fuck yourself
[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
https://saidit.net/s/AskSaidIt/comments/989g/why_do_americans_pride_themselves_on_free_speech/y0vw
[–]chadwickofwv 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun - 1 year ago (1 child)
While the censorship is fucking insane, it is nowhere near as bad as many other countries, specifically the communist ones.
[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
communist ones
ROFL what are you, stuck in the 1980s? Communism has been dead for longer than most people on the planet have been alive.
There's like two and a half communist countries left in the world, Cuba, Vietnam and North Korea which is this weird cross between god-emperor worship and something vaguely Communist-ish. China has stock markets for fuck's sake, they're about as communist as Singapore. The difference is that Singapore is a fake democratic de facto single-party state while China is a fake communist de jure single-party state.
[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (2 children)
I'm sorry that you got banned from Reddit, but there are plenty of places that have it much worse.
In Singapore, your free expression will get you sued in private lawsuits which are totally biased and designed to bankrupt you. In Canada, your free expression will see your bank accounts seized. In China, your free expression will see you disappear.
As bad as it is in the US, it can get much, much worse.
[–]portace 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 1 year ago (1 child)
1) In the US, free speech and free thought might get you "suicided". Especially if you reveal incriminating info on the ones in power. At best, you'll be imprisoned for being a whistleblower. And you aren't really safe anywhere in the world if the US government is out for you. I mean..there are at least 40+ deaths related to whistleblowers or investigators on US government run pedo rings and child trafficking (probably a lot more). Then you add in ppl like Hastings, Webb, Swartz, Ulfkotte, Vltchek, McAfee, etc. who get killed for going against govt narratives.
Why do you think the NSA and CIA are so concerned about tracking everyone and inserting agents into social media platforms?
2) US operations like COININTELPRO and Operation Gladio alone got you killed for political beliefs. Then there's the hundreds of coups in foreign countries that the US runs where you get killed for being on the side of the government they want to overthrow.
3) There are other forms of censorship:
Like the US running mass astroturfs on nearly all social media platforms (including foreign) to spread disinformation and control speech. It's how they drown out the truth and free expression while maintaining the illusion of free speech. A lot of cultural and political clashes are manufactured on purpose.
The control of global MSM and mass manufacturing of fake news that the entire world ends up believing
Funding of bloggers/authors to maintain fake mainstream narratives
"Private" social media companies are controlled by intelligence agencies. They use everything from banning users to shadowbanning to censorship.
Government manufactured cancel culture and having you lose your job
Softer tactics include algorithm manipulation, bots, mass upvoting/downvoting
The fact that you seem to know none of this is a pretty good indication of the dystopian Truman Show nightmare you're still stuck in.
Here are 64 links to start with:
https://qr.ae/pvsyKR
In the US, free speech and free thought might get you "suicided".
Sure. And it might get you cancelled and banned from social media, or it might get you a job working for Elon Musk, or it might get you a $200 million deal with Spotify and the position as the #1 most popular news source in the country, leaving even Tucker Carlson in the dust. All sorts of things "might" happen in the USA.
But not this. Not yet.
The fact that you seem to know none of this
Dude, I wrote five sentences, not everything I know. That would have taken at least three more sentences 😉
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
We don't "speak" internet you euroskeptical cuckjob!
[–]noshore4me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (1 child)
Please provide examples from different countries from around the world in a side by side comparison to back up your assertion about censorship.
[–]yabbit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
I got banned on reddit for my free expression
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