Do you support Putin's approaches in Ukraine? Yes or no?

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[–]StillLessons 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

There are productive conversations, and there are unproductive conversations. The method you have chosen here is the classic cheap journalist technique of "soundbiting" a complex issue. This is not a productive conversation. You will see my opinions in the comments I have made in other threads that were relatively interesting. I stand by what I have written in those comments.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Which is a way of saying, 'yes'. In other words, you imply in your comments that you can overlook war crimes, genoocide, murdering thousand s of unarmed people, the displacement of 10 million people, the bombing to rubble of a country, all for no legitimate reason (and no, it was not about 'liberating' Ukraine). Numerous Russians are also against the genocide and destruction. Even if you don't like some of the leadership in Ukraine, nothing justifies the invasion. There isn't any nuance in what Putin and his generals have arranged. This is not 'a complex issue'. It's a survey. Thank you for your response.

[–]StillLessons 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

You wonder why people get so pissed off at you, Socks, you have just exemplified your style perfectly. I refuse to answer a simplistically "gotcha" phrased survey, so you simply insert the answer you choose to ascribe to me and go about your day. That is blatantly dishonest communication. It's flagrant. You're literally making shit up. I know what I wrote in my comments, and it's not what you just put in my mouth. That's called lying. Absolute lying. People know what I have said, and they know what you say. I repeat, I will let my comments stand for themselves. Hint: my comments say nothing of what you have just suggested they do. You are remarkable. I suppose the only positive I can take from your comment is that to attack my words with the desperation of manufacturing your own false version of my perspective, you must feel kind of touchy that I might (just might) actually be reaching some people. You can have the last word. I said from the beginning this conversation was a waste of time, and your response proves I was absolutely correct.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

No need to attack me. It was important that I note that there is a fundamental problem here regarding the claim that a simple yes/no answer is not appropriate. There is absolutely no scenario in which the answer, yes, is appropriate.

[–]AXXA 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

There is absolutely no scenario in which the answer, yes, is appropriate.

And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If you comment on the tyranny of the 'chosen people', look up: Jesus and the Gentiles

If you try to justify fascist war crimes, note which side of this argument Jesus is on, and responses to the abuses of every powerful nation in history, and how “blessed are the meek [not the weak], for they will inherit the earth.”

[–]AXXA 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Then God will help Ukraine fight the war criminals

[–]rmprtom 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

ukraine is going to die in a pile of blood and shit. Long Live Putin

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

you already voted, Ed

[–]rmprtom 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

god made dick, so suck on one.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Dude you are seriously fucking delirious. THE MEDIA ARE LYING TO YOU JUST LIKE THEY LIED TO YOU ABOUT EVERY OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUE. EVER.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This argument might work with 12-year-olds - that all major news media is bad - but that's obviously beside the point. Look at the raw videos.