ShalomEveryone is a full of shit enemy of humanity, and I ask for them to be banned for perpetually sealioning, shilling, lying, and dragging down discussions (only the last is ban-worthy by site rules).

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    [–]Chipit 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (47 children)

    That's not the issue. The issue is that when it trolls, it harms the whole site. It's not argument in good faith, and that's what Saidit is founded on.

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      [–]Chipit 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      everything slightly off

      Stop right there. There's your problem. It's not "slightly off". It's tremendously off.

      It drives normies and Reddit refugees away from the site. Which is its entire point. That's what the account was designed to do.

      [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (17 children)

      Didn't Jason post about banning you for being a shill too? I think I saw that going through old posts. And I saw you can read Chinese, that's neat.

      [–]Chipit 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (15 children)

      He had me confused with this Chinese dude called snow. Snow left the site at about the same time I joined. He wouldn't let it go and followed me around the site harassing me with every comment. This was before the crowd of people who follow me around the site harassing me. Jason was good practice in growing an invincible armored shell.

      [–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

      He had me confused with this Chinese dude called snow. Snow left the site at about the same time I joined. He wouldn't let it go and followed me around the site harassing me with every comment.

      Chipit. You're 100% snow.

      You found your own snow job hoax posts on two different sites.

      Miraculously found them both. And with the goal of sabotaging the reputation of Saidit.

      Posted it here twice, cause it wasn't even noticed the first time.

      This was before the crowd of people who follow me around the site harassing me.

      I'm a one man party.

      Jason was good practice in growing an invincible armored shell.

      Your "invincible" shell is made of dung.

      You're not invincible.

      You're untouchable.

      I brought gloves, and some dung to add to your "shell".

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

      LOL

      Chipit has grown yet remains flawed, like all of us, but was never as flawed as snow.

      [–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

      You believe Chipshit accidentally found both of the hoax posts?

      It's the same clown.

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      snow was all about gender issues though? he had an agender sub or some crazy shit. and zhe was into tech like mechanical keyboards. this finding the posts thing does sound suspicious though.

      [–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

      Someone is feeding Chipit articles, and books ​to post, etc.

      Chipit struggles to defend any position when he's confronted.
      ​ ​

      ​ It's not a one person show. He's getting help, at the very least.

      His submission titles are crafted to suggest ideas to the viewing audience. Written like Op-ed pieces.
      They're not particularly sophisticated, but he's not targeting a sophisticated audience.
      But they're clearly targeted messages.

      Look at his submissions into books.
      https://saidit.net/s/books/

      He's not reading those books.
      The content is beyond his scope.

      Propaganda isn't always lies.
      Mostly slanted truths, etc.
      Propaganda has to have truthiness.

      He comments don't read like his submission titles.

      They're stupid. Stupid like a misinformed college freshman, and his debating skills are even worse.
      Full of arrogance, but with minimal substance.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Very interesting. I'll keep my eyes peeled. I think I've seen snow on /r/RedditAlternatives a few times since he left here.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I can't speak on that.

      Whether they are the same person/people or not, their personas are quite different.

      [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      You know, considering the group of professional social media influencers that pollute this site's every thread, it's almost quaint receiving abuse from Tom_Bombadil and his conspiracy mind again.

      [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      it's almost quaint receiving abuse from Tom_Bombadil and his conspiracy mind again.

      No doubt it takes you back to when you masqueraded as a Chinese transgender pedo.

      You can't make this crap up.

      [–]soundsituation 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      You found your own snow job hoax posts on two different sites.

      Which posts were these, if you don't mind saying?

      [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      They were submitted to r/conspiracy, and another site I had never heard of.

      He linked to the non Reddit site post (pretended to find it), after he faked leaving as Snow.

      This occurred in 2019.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      I wasn't pushing that snow idea.

      I've never followed anyone around. I was calling out your bullshit when I saw it. There was a lot of it.

      I am thrilled that you've grown so much since then.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

      Chipit has grown a lot since arriving on SaidIt. He's realized that ALL of "The Left" are certainly NOT unified (with infighting akin to the Right), not all are the enemy, nor all bad, and that centrists and voluntaryists may be left of him but that doesn't make them The Left. And he's improved his debate level from fallacious bullshitter to a decent user, and he's usually got good posts, even if I'm not always a fan of the titles.

      [–]jet199 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

      Trolls don't harm the site.

      They at least get people talking rather than circle jerking.

      And they help to prick the egos of a few supercilious posters I could mention.

      [–]Chipit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

      Trolls don't harm the site.

      They harm every site. The world would be better off without them. Especially the ones who are paid to post, whip up division, and make posters fight with one another.

      [–]jet199 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

      As if anyone here is competent enough to get paid.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      As if anyone here is competent enough to get paid.

      That's not the point. The ruling class and their shadow governments and psyops can print money and pay as much as necessary for armies of infiltration, surveillance, and asstrolls.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      No, they make PEOPLE LEAVE THE SITE when they see the demented inanities.

      [–]Ehhhhhh 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

      Ohhh. You want him banned for our own good? We can't decide to block and you know better?

      [–]Chipit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

      It's harming the entire site. There is no good that comes from its comments. It's not arguing in good faith. Banning is a disfavored option but it's justified here.

      [–]jet199 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

      You can't read minds.

      You don't know what faith people are arguing in.

      [–]Chipit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

      It's obvious that the ShalomEveryone account is arguing in bad faith. It's a troll account.

      Why would anyone defend it?

      [–]AXXA 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

      How is it obvious? Do you have an example?

      [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

      Covering for the trolls. There it is again.

      [–]AXXA 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

      So you claim it is obvious but you can't explain how or why or give any examples. It's like you're a troll arguing in bad faith, isn't it?

      [–]Chipit 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

      Defending the troll account is super sus.

      [–]ShalomEveryone 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      It's obvious that the ShalomEveryone account is arguing in bad faith.

      That's an incomplete sentence. The end of the sentence is, "who disagrees with him".

      There was a post where someone mentioned white genocide. I said white genocide does not exist and I said the following...

      saying that there is nothing to "White genocide"

      That's because that is the case, there is no white genocide. During World War II, 10,000,000 people were systematically killed by the Nazis. People were kidnapped and shipped off to concentration camps to be killed. Where in the world right now are white people being kidnapped and sent to concentration camps to be killed?

      The Khmer Rouge rounding up over 1,000,000 Cambodians to be slaughtered in the killing fields is genocide. Today, where are the white people rounded up and being massacred in killing fields? It's not happening today to white people.

      King Leopold of Belgium killed 10,000,000 Congolese, that's genocide. Where are whites being killed in those numbers anywhere? I'll tell you where, in Fantasyland of white supremacists.

      White supremacists like to point towards declining birthrates as "white genocide". That's not genocide, just because white women use birth control unlike women of other ethnic groups does not mean there is a genocide.

      “White Genocide” is a term coined by white supremacists for propaganda purposes as shorthand for one of the most deeply held modern white supremacist convictions: that the white race is “dying” due to growing non-white populations and “forced assimilation,” all of which are deliberately engineered and controlled by a Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white race. This same conviction can be seen in the so-called “14 Words” slogan, the most popular white supremacist slogan around the globe: “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.” White supremacists commonly claim that they must take action, even violent action, or the “white race” will “perish from the Earth.”

      https://saidit.net/s/politics/comments/8tlq/poll_reveals_shocking_number_of_dems_would/woro

      My post alone received 3 insightful and 1 fun. If I was arguing in bad faith, saiditers would show that by clicking "fun". That's not the case though, there are more insightful which means I argued in good faith and more people agreed with me than disagreed.

      Genocide is what happened to Jewish people, Congolese, Cambodians and Armenians. Whites are not being slaughtered.

      I believe the discussion in that thread is what caused u/JasonCarswell to call for my banning. I hurt his feelings by saying there is no white genocide. I provided examples of true genocide by mentioning millions who were systematically killed. Nowhere did he say, "you're full of it, there is a white genocide, 2,000,000 white people were massacred in this country and that country".

      What does Carswell do? Did he provide examples of millions of whites being systematically killed? No! Hell, did he provide examples of tens of thousands of whites being systematically killed? No, he went on about fauci and vaccines. He made sure to include the antisemitic echos in his post. Then he went on to say, "ShalomEveryone is a full of shit enemy of humanity."

      He's calling for my banishment and here he is saying I am full of shit, that's low pyramid of debate material there. Also, saiditers agree with me more than Carswell. Take a look at his post, there are 2 insightful and 3 fun, meaning more people disliked his post than liked his. Saiditers liked my post more than they liked his.

      Why would anyone defend it?

      Because they like discussions with differing opinions? Because they may disagree with me but they know I back up what I say to the best of my ability?

      Shalom

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      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

      TL;DR. Timesuck get fucked and troll someone else.

      [–]ShalomEveryone 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You reply is about what I expected.

      Shalom

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      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      Drop the act, it's obvious what you're doing and why.

      [–]ShalomEveryone 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Drop the act

      You're saying that based off of?

      it's obvious what you're doing and why.

      Enlighten me, please.

      Shalom

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      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      https://saidit.net/s/pics/comments/8pry/scene_from_a_high_school_in_germany/wc67

      Openly wishing for underage white girls to be raped by immigrants is obviously trolling. Nobody believes that.

      [–]Ehhhhhh 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I find good in their comments. They have made good points in some of their replies.

      [–]ShalomEveryone 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I agree. He wants to dictate what all saiditers see and don't see.

      Shalom

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      [–]ShalomEveryone 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Thank you, saidit is to be the reddit alternative where you wont get banned just because you have a differing opinion and are not afraid to hold your ground in discussion. What people don't like is that a lot of the time when I state my point I back it up with links/facts. Backing up my claim makes it harder to provide a counterpoint which causes users here to lob insults my way.

      Shalom

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      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      OP:

      ...and dragging down discussions (only the last is ban-worthy by site rules).

      Plus you and /u/ShalomEveryone can migrate to /u/fschmidt's new SaidIt-based sister-site https://FreedIt.com (if/when they are ready) for all the free speech you like. Follow their developments on /s/FreedIt.