SaidIt Survey: Ban /u/JasonCarswell or keep it around?

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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Thanks for this, /u/ActuallyNot . I've just seen it. Excellent points. If someone constantly breaks the rules, I agree it's important to make a point of it, especially when the rest of us are required to follow the rules (I have 2 "strikes" and will be banned with the 3rd strike, merely for saying twice what Carswell has said 100s of times. Not that we should be shocked that Carswell can continue bullying. But it's worth addressing the bullying on Saidit, for many reasons. Saidit would probably grow if the bullying was checked more often, though those of us who are bullied naturally lose all interest in making a point of this, or bothering to care about Saidit's future. Months ago I defended Carswell, diogenes, Muskrat and others when they were banned, writing quite a bit to the admins and community about them. I wanted to see their approaches on Saidit, even when we didn't agree (especially because we didn't agree). But because I've been rather honest with Carswell about his issues, this is one of the reasons he obviously hates me and is on record trying to get me banned on many occasions. That's of course his problem to worry about. Would I still want him to be banned. I don't know. His bullying keeps Saidit from growing, but he's not the only person bullying. Do I want Saidit to grow? I don't know. If it did grow, would be a leading spreader of right-wing and alt right disinformation propaganda? Seems so. Moreover, is Saidit truly a "free speech" website? Is it truly "non-partisan"? Does it really address corruption, if indeed we see so much propaganda in the posts (paid for by a corrupt influencer racket funded by GOP PACs, donors and corporations). As with any community, there will be odd developments and contradictions, and if Saidit does grow, I think we'll see - by necessity - more interesting approaches to these developments (for better or worse). It can be an interesting place, minus the bullying.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

If someone constantly breaks the rules

Do you mean you or Jason?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I refer to the alt accounts that returned 2 days later to upvote your comment.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

That's the kind of thing my nemesis claims on Reddit. We've been fighting for years. It started because she figured nobody would ever upvote the things I said so I must have been creating accounts to upvote myself. We've been fighting for years. She says things like... Shit, I don't really pay attention. But then I say things like your bf killed himself to get away from you -- which is totally true. He did it right in front of her. She's the kind of woman guys are dying to avoid.

You can't be my nemesis though, only hot chicks may apply.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I get called back to posts 2 days later by comment responses and I double upvote everyone except the shills. It's how I see who I've already read, and it is community support on this "dead" site - and it's faster than actually deciding who is "insightful" or "fun" (unless they really don't deserve one). Does it skew the scores much? Does it matter?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's not just you, I revisit old threads too. Socks just thinks people target him. It's understandable.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Socks just thinks people target him. It's understandable.

He's idiotic with blinders, or is shilling, and if not shilling and if he just wakes up, he can stop the lying and thus stop the attacks. We're targeting the lies, but he refuses to see he's a liar.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No offence mate, but no one should blame her/himself for another's suicide, no matter how relevant.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No offense taken. She literally drove him to suicide. I know, you're supposed to say it's not their fault, but people who do that -- kill themselves in front of another person -- do that for a reason. It was totally her fault.