Free Speech Reddit Alternative?

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[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (13 children)

Viable software options for a reddit-alternative include about half of the projects on this list: https://ramble.pw/f/RedditAlternatives/4041

Your 'ideal platform' sounds a lot like Lemmy to me, with its ActivityPub federation. Lemmy is a very early project and kind of ugly and clunky though.

I can cover costs and legal issues.

Whoa... you don't hear that everyday.

[–]fschmidt[S] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Languages:

  • lemmy - rust and typescript
  • postmill - php
  • throat - python
  • mastodon - ruby and javascript
  • ruqqus - python
  • drama - python
  • notabug - javascript
  • saidit - python

Python and Ruby are okay, the rest are not. So that leaves throat, ruqqus, drama, and saidit. All of these programs are big so would require someone who already knows one of them or is willing to invest the time to learn. If someone like that worked with me, I could read the code and make changes if needed. But of course I assume that no one will volunteer.

There is one simple solution. That is that you work with me in setting up a SaidIt clone. I don't need to clone the SaidIt data, starting from scratch is fine. This would be the only free speech Reddit alternative, so it would grow slowly over time. For you this should be very easy. You can use and maintain the same code base for both SaidIt and my clone. Here is what I want:

No pyramid of debate. Mods have total control over their subs. Site-wide rules are minimal: no illegal content and probably no porn or disgusting images. (Free speech, not freedom of expression.) I have run an old forum hosting service called Nabble for many years and dealt with legal issues. I have a great lawyer. I also have a great sysadmin who can handle sysadmin issues.

The vast majority of the 8 billion pieces of human shit infesting our world are useless. So if you want free speech, don't expect anyone else to step forward and do anything. If you are willing to step forward, then we can make a free speech Reddit alternative.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

I accept! Give me a week or two to get the codebase running well with docker, so that we don't have to use ubuntu 14 as the server OS. In the meantime you can decide on:

  • two upvotes types like here or the traditional upvote and downvote?
  • use the saidit CSS or start over with the old reddit CSS?
  • do you want the saidit chat add-ons/integration too?

[–]nsopegasusyou 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Good luck with the Havana Syndrome and the cyber attacks via hardware backdoors. Don't give up, tho. (Free speech is serious business, they gonna want your head trashed.)

[–]fschmidt[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

https://saidit.net/s/AskSaidIt/comments/8gk8/saidit_clone_design/

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Wonder why he doesn't like rust, typescript, php, and javascript.

Nabble seems neat. First I've heard of it. Has a forum. Might be a step up if he can transfer all the "Apps" forums to the SaidIt platform. (Lesbian strapon sticks out.)

What about the old-Python ticking time bomb? I'm guessing they would have their own server(s) to run the old code.

This could be exciting.

[–]WhoFlu 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Rust is a fantastic language, although a little challenging to learn. I wish I had the time to invest into learning Rust properly.

Python and Ruby are much simpler languages, and great at first, but usually have significant problems with scaling.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

What about the old-Python ticking time bomb?

I'm addressing that by using Docker. It's a bandaid fix, but a step forward.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What about the old-Python ticking time bomb?

I'm addressing that by using Docker. It's a bandaid fix, but a step forward.

Neat to know.

[–]RuckusChan 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Good luck if you are trying but you should also learn the political lessons as to why so many sites fail, stacksity is a 404 503 error, hubski dot com is empty, snapzu dot com changed to a weird spam picture site, social media video site Vid dot me dead, frizbee.co nothing happening now blank page, tildes dot net is a ghost town, Ruqqus dying etc

[–]fschmidt[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

How can I learn these lessons? Maybe you can just tell me what I need to know.

[–]Zvezda 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

No porn at all? I very much agree :D

What is a pyramid of debate?

And would you (I know this sounds bad) allow talk about pedophilia, not glorifying it but just discussion about it. I think ruqqus had a problem like that and took a while to deal with so would be good for you to decide now whether legitimate discussion about it is allowed or not. I am for either to be honest with you, I do not mind banning discussion about it completely but I also think if a discussion about a taboo subject comes up we should be allowed to talk about. I just do not want this to become a pedo story site.

I am useless with technology so I am of no help, but if there is something I can do I would be willing to try.

[–]fschmidt[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What is a pyramid of debate?

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

And would you (I know this sounds bad) allow talk about pedophilia, not glorifying it but just discussion about it.

Yes

[–]Zvezda 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks 👍

Message me if you need anything for this website, I will try to help if I can :D