SaidIt Survey: Ban /u/socks and /u/ActuallyNot or keep them around?

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    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

    Don't be an inauthentic asstroll. You fucking know damn well they don't allow our kinds of echo chambers there. Furthermore, it's not about the echo chamber. Sure we definitely need more authentic left here, and the SJWs are insane so I can't say we need any of them. But those two, as I stated clearly, are beyond just being inauthentic asstrolls - they're liars, perpetual rule-breakers, and disruptive agents on SaidIt.

    What changed today is that d3rr said he wasn't going to deal with rule-breakers.

    [–]Zapped 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

    The problem is that the rules here can be arbitrary. I have refrained from commenting because so many have already put into words, better than me, how I feel about the matter. Is one comment calling someone a name breaking the rules? What about calling someone a name while making an argument? What about using "debate" to work users into a frenzy? I think we each have a responsibility to discriminate which comments are genuine and which are from shills or trolls; whether for fun or profit. As u/Basghetti touched on: if you can prove they are actively trying to wreck the site and shutter discussion here, then that would be an open-and-shut case for banning, in my opinion.

    How I deal with users I think are bad actors or have a mental issue? I don't block them. I glance over their comments and don't give them much credence. The replies to those comments can be more insightful on how others react. Truth be told, it frustrates me sometimes how worked up you can get in those conversations. I think you waste energy you can use elsewhere. There are some pertinent quotes about arguing on this link: https://celebrateyoga.org/41-quotes-arguing-idiots/

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    What you say is true.

    It's easy enough to show that both socks and ActuallyNot are shills, trolls, and exceptionally disruptive.

    how worked up you can get in those conversations

    I don't understand why people say that. I'm just verbose for clarity or creativity plus I have strong convictions.

    Yes, my energy will be utilized elsewhere after this last post on this shit.

    If SaidIt flounders you can't say I didn't try.

    [–]Zapped 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    I think you try harder than most. You see the big picture. Don't let that get lost in the details. Culture is a group effort and those who spend time and energy being sidetracked by outliers, are often spent before they complete the journey. Don't let the pursuit of perfection take you on a side quest, for it is never ending.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Sage advice.

    I'm not worn down yet.

    I've only engaged them in prime opportune moments with purpose, and they consistently provide ample evidence of rule-breaking as they timesuck.

    Because I'm trying to be more productive and solutions oriented, I'll be shifting away from SaidIt for a while, but never too far.