Explain Covid vaccine to me

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[–]Bigs 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

All previous attempts at a vaccine for any coronavirus have ended in failure, usually by making the disease WORSE once exposed to the real thing.

Seems they are using this as an excuse to rush through this RNA tech which would otherwise take a very long time to ever be accepted. It has been tried before, aimed at cancer in people already dying. I don't recall hearing any success stories, and early versions were toxic or damaging.

They claim to have solved the damaging side by encasing the messenger RNA in a lipid (fat) that protects it long enough to do its thing. However that particular lipid, short name PEG, is known to trigger allergic reactions in something like 40% of people, so it's also fucking toxic.

It gets worse - before the vaccines were produced there has already been evidence that the real cause of the damage from C19 is actually down to the thing that gives it the name 'corona', which is the spike proteins that create that 'crown' or corona shape. It's those proteins that create the blood clots and brain damage, organ damage etc that makes covid19 such a wacky disease.

But these vaccines work by making your own cells produce... those fucking spike proteins.

In their own docs they were aware of the risk of people next to those who have been jabbed being affected by those same spikes via skin contact or breathing the same air. So even if you avoid the vaccine you may find yourself with the blood clots etc. by being in close contact with someone who HAS been injected and whose cells are now pumping out the spikes.

It gets worse - some are suggesting that if the spike folding process goes awry it could very easily create a prion disease, like mad cow disease, a fatal brain-eating thing.

[–]roguecanine[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

All previous attempts at a vaccine for any coronavirus have ended in failure, usually by making the disease WORSE once exposed to the real thing.

I wonder how they justify this then. Was the weakened virus not enough to trigger immune response? Why?

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Does a trllion dollars sound like enough justification? Just paint any skeptical opinion as an ignorant conspiracy theory by a racist MAGA-tard. You and your billionaire buddies can become trilionaires. Neat! That’s how .

[–]Tophat123 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. They are using this same playbook for guns, beef, religion, expression, and everything else actual people hold dear.

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My layman's understanding (and memory) goes something like this - there are 2 or 3 layers to our immune system, and an infection causes all of them to swing into action.

A vaccine triggers the antibodies, which is like layer 1. Because layer 1 is already active, the other layer/s are actually damped down or at least not triggered, which actually gives a real-life infection a much greater chance of harming or killing you.

Note the mRNA vaccines are to reduce symptoms, rather than prevent infection and transmission. They may well reduce infection and transmission BECAUSE they reduced the symptoms, so you don't cough and sneeze so much etc. But those symptoms are signs your body is fighting an infection; turning them off is like turning off the red flashing light on the dashboard and continuing to drive as normal.

So in the past they've tested ferrets (apparently they have very similar respiratory systems) and found various vaccines created a nice, robust antibody response. So the vaccine was a success. Woot.

Except when challenged with the actual wild virus, every ferret died.