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[–]Tom_Bombadil 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I think you do know. And you do know me.

Do I?

I know you about as well as I know M7, or the nigerian prince that created this overreaction.

At least they don't appear to trust internet forums with their actual names.

Your repeated public attacks don't make any sense given there current isn't a reasonable alternative platform.

You're discussing significant changes to the site, but I don't see anyone else calling for these changes...

It's worth stating that there aren't any successful examples of the type of site you are proposing, so it appears to me like a plan to fail.

However, rather than create the change you want and prove it can succeed; you're trying to modify a currently successful site.

Notably, the only one that is still functioning.

You're far from stupid, so none of this makes sense.

Unless, we look at this from a different angle. It is all quite reasonable if you are actually controlled opposition.

Then everything makes perfect sense.

I'm on the fence on this one, because it's difficult to know with any certainty.

However, it's well within the realms of probability.

You haven't done anything to upset me personally. This isn't a personal attack. I still consider you a semi-anonomous internet friend. That is, to the extent that we are aligned in our interests of chipping away at the propaganda and bullshit that has captured the planet.

However, if our formerly mutual interests are in fact divergent, then our friendship is mere sentimentally, and can easily obfuscate reality.

I would like to think you are not controlled opposition, but It would be foolish to continue to completely ignore this possibility.

So, I'm putting it out there as a possibility.

Hopefully, you can understand the rationale behind this statement.

I would expect you to call attention to my actions if the situation were reversed.

Edit: Fun fact; "Tom" is nigerian for "Prince".

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Do I?

You tell me. Am I one to silently tolerate injustice from anyone with power?

I know you about as well as I know M7, or the nigerian prince that created this overreaction.

That make me sad. M7 is notoriously secretive. I am not. You know my real name, what I look like, etc. Soon you may even get to know me through video if my LeverMind Variety Show concept gets elected as one of my main projects (more on that soon).

At least they don't appear to trust internet forums with their actual names.

I can't speak for others or why they need anonymity. Maybe I will live to regret not being more "secure". It's the sad state of the world, and for my part I won't play into that aspect.

Your repeated public attacks don't make any sense given there current isn't a reasonable alternative platform.

That you know of. Yet. As I stated, everyone had to wake up to the cracks in the foundation. When a reasonable alternative platform arises people will naturally be slow to migrate. Now there's less reason to be slow or hesitant. Was it all worth it? To be determined.

You're discussing significant changes to the site, but I don't see anyone else calling for these changes...

Recently I've proposed changes to this site's management only. No significant changes to the code will ever come. I've made lists of ideas for this forum and very few have been seriously considered. I've even proposed raising funds for code-bounties to get er done. Also recently, I've proposed a next-step migration to Lemmy/Lenny, while also proposing ideas for a next-gen forum with radical concepts from the ground up.

1) You aren't looking very hard. 2) You don't need to see them, nor their private messages. We love you but obviously you're not too supportive yet. I can't speak for them yet but if you're interested we may invite you. I've been busy/procrastinating rebooting my fucked up box so I can install Session. I'm not sharing their names on purpose. I keep asking them to be open, as I am, but they fear consequences. Perhaps justifiably. We've already lost a few good ones. We don't need more gone.

It's worth stating that there aren't any successful examples of the type of site you are proposing, so it appears to me like a plan to fail.

LOL. I don't need examples of what has already worked if I'm going to break new ground.

I also don't expect it to fly without any hitches either. Fail, fail better, then succeed.

Now who's being negative?

However, rather than create the change you want and prove it can succeed; you're trying to modify a currently successful site.

Multi-wrong. The changes are being created, and we will struggle and persevere and succeed. I'm not trying to modify SaidIt, though I was trying to get M7 to evolve. "Currently successful site" is subjective and simplistic. I'm choosing to omit a whole multi-faceted series of critical rants here as they won't help anything.

Notably, the only one that is still functioning.

I'm not sure what you mean.

There are other forums functioning. They don't have the same content and obviously different communities. So yes, SaidIt is currently the best that I'm aware of. I will never deny that until something IMO surpasses it. My praise of this site is a tribute to the exceptional efforts of M7 and D3 and everyone who's contributed here, including you. However, long ago the site stopped evolving and M7 has closed himself off. M7 has alienated many - even D3. The future is coming on fast and the looming chaos of this coming summer will distract from but never stop the technocracy. We must not rest on our laurels. The poverty, culture, gender, race, cyber, class war is upon us and they use 5GW and have armies of minions and control the money printing. You know this.

I have exposed M7 only. Not even deeply. That's done. My goal was never to harm SaidIt nor the community, despite whatever collateral damage was done. I'm trying to move on. Can you let me/us all?

Also I never want to have SaidIt disappear. SaidIt will always be our mother community. Not only is there utility in it, but there's a foundational history here - as well as a future. Perhaps it will remain the same or perhaps M7 will finally evolve. That's not up to me.

You're far from stupid, so none of this makes sense.

I try my best, and write ridiculously verbose posts and comments and PMs to avoid room for confusion. You are also far from stupid, so I don't understand why you can't see it or make sense of it. Others who are in our league can without problems or hesitation.

Unless, we look at this from a different angle. It is all quite reasonable if you are actually controlled opposition.

That's a big fucking "IF". That sounds as paranoid as M7. Yet, it's a valid viewpoint, and he should be paranoid speaking truth about power. But only to a reasonable point within the bounds of logic.

Then everything makes perfect sense.

Not really. Not at all - unless you completely disregard everything I've said - as well as everything everyone else has said on the matter too. Even most of the people who criticized me for persisting the drama so long (another valid view), could understand my reasons and supported those.

I'm on the fence on this one, because it's difficult to know with any certainty.

Very understandable. I stand by my actions. I also stand by my future plans. I aim to continue proving myself to our community and in time I hope you'll come to understand and regain your faith in me. It's not been easy for me either, though in some ways M7 actually made it much easier to see than we imagined possible.

However, it's well within the realms of probability.

Not really. I don't understand your bias and blindness, other than you are understandably loyal to M7. I've never said he's all bad or anything like that. So far as I can tell, M7 and I share in common 97% of our views on things.

You haven't done anything to upset me personally. This isn't a personal attack. I still consider you a semi-anonomous internet friend. That is, to the extent that we are aligned in our interests of chipping away at the propaganda and bullshit that has captured the planet.

Likewise.

However, if our formerly mutual interests are in fact divergent, then our friendship is mere sentimentally, and can easily obfuscate reality.

I've not diverged. I'm trying to evolve and prepare. Things will get worse before they get better. Drama on SaidIt got worse - now they can get better. At least for my part. I have no influence over STABs. I just hope others will help unify to be stronger as some of us take steps to evolve. Eventually we'll be sharing how folks can participate with their own instances too. IMO we should all have indie-servers.

I would like to think you are not controlled opposition, but It would be foolish to continue to completely ignore this possibility.

Sure, to you it may seem like a possibility. I accept that. If I really wanted to unleash hell I could have dug up all the shit I could on M7 to post endless examples. I could have posted them on many sites. I could have done lots of stuff. AND I could have actually attacked SaidIt - not just M7. The LXXX and today's phishing scam are bad enough - but they are idiots. I'm too busy thinking of solutions to bother coming up with, much less openly sharing, ways to sabotage SaidIt.

Think about all the shit I did trying to build SaidIt. Sure, not all of it was expertly done, but I did my best. Even while banned I gave a PostIt with SaidIt.net and Corbett and stuff to the girl I got my groceries from (certainly not the first time). I redesigned the logo, the PoD, added SaidIt to Alternative.To, and wrote the InfoGalactic article. There's not a week that I don't share SaidIt on YouTube, and perhaps on average not a day.

So, I'm putting it out there as a possibility.

Anything's possible in the world of anon. Maybe Q-Anon is legit. (Not really.)

I'm not anon. I have built up my reputation, my brand if you will, and I stand by it. I'm not rich so I can't buy my way out of anything. I'm rebuilding myself back up from the ashes of my Big Pharma disaster - slowly, and with purpose.

Hopefully, you can understand the rationale behind this statement.

I understand it but think it's ludicrous. I don't know why you're blind to my open motives.

I would expect you to call attention to my actions if the situation were reversed.

Indeed. I really do value your thoughts. Thank you for bothering to indulge me and the readers. By expressing doubts I can clear them up. You are not likely the only one.

The post that was censored and got me banned was a plea to the community to call me out on my shit and/or call out M7 on his. The responses were diverse and all over the field - thus illustrating it's not a clear cut case of right and wrong. It was not even a polarizing binary tribal team thing either. It's very complex.

Unfortunately because M7 censored it those discussions were squashed. We'll never know where they could have gone. And we'll never know what transpired with DioJr or others. Maybe they deserved being banned. Maybe not.

That said, I'm/we're trying to moving on. We obviously have problems, but we're working on solutions.