Should /u/diogenesjunior be un-banned? I've lost a friend. I don't know the details: who where when what how why. This is a serious problem on SaidIt.

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[–]Comatoast 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

If you account for certain medications, CICO might be nearly impossible to keep up with. If you take a medication that lowers your body's requirements for energy by decreasing the metabolic rate, your body won't need as many calories and you end up screwed. Plus there's water retention. Personally, my body doesn't give a shit if I even went 100 calories below my intake (and I take Adderall XR to boot), if I eat bread I'm going to have an immediate 3-5 lbs water retention gain over the next few days.

I had pretty great luck with low carb, losing all pregnancy weight and more--leaving me more than ten pounds less than I was after high school graduation (that was before I went back on my meds, so Adderall can't take the credit). Different things work for different people though, and it really just seems like a toss up. Low fat diets and low protein diets are truly awful though, like abysmally so. Cholesterol is the parent of a shit ton of hormones, and when you're not getting enough it's going to start screwing around with other body processes.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Water weight is depressing when you're dieting but I just ignored it since it wasn't fat. I take creatine sometimes and I can retain as 8lbs of water then, although ofc being a guy that's not as noticeable.

I had pretty great luck with low carb

I prefer low carb, high protein, but only because it's filling. I weighed and logged everything I ate for a year, and my weight changed predictably over the long term based on the calories, once I ignored fluctuations, no matter what is was that I ate.

If thyroid meds or something reduce your BMR, that's going to affect every diet.

I was taking ephedrine too (almost chemically identical to amphetamines) and although it's handy as an appetite suppressant until you get used to it, it didn't boost my metabolism.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

This jives more with what I know, limited as it is. Low carb is key, but difficult on a tight budget. Wonder about the obesity crisis? Look at the food pyramids we grew up with and processed white Wonderbread.

[–]Comatoast 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

It's completely possible on a tight budget. Fresh vegetables on sale/frozen, frozen berries or fresh, cantaloupe or honeydew, meats, cheeses, eggs and fats. You can get really creative with it, or just order bunless burgers at fastfood places with side salads. It's cheaper to end up just making your own salad dressings, tastier too.

American food pyramids relied heavily on higher carbohydrate intake, and when our wheat-based products are made with shit-tier flours from wheat that is effectively just filler material, I could see it causing problems.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed.

It's also a matter of not being lazy to the max and depending how picky you are.

I throw tinfoil down in a casserole dish to avoid doing dishes, throw on a bunch of veggies in, frozen or not, with butter/margerine, spices, cheeses, and/or some kinda sauce from a jar.

I'll also slow cook a bunch of stuff and keep adding to it for a couple days.

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CICO works because of thermodynamics. You can't pull energy (calories) from the void, a donut won't make you extra fat, nor can you send them there, so conversely no food will make you lean. Every diet that works, works on an underlying CICO principal. Atkins works, but not if you eat a caloric surplus. I mean, nothing could.

Low carb helps cause protein is more filling. I think it's the most filling macro. Cheapest protein source I've found is supplements btw, since it does get expensive.

There's a lot of misinformation out there on dieting. Because everyone wants a magic bullet. Eat these superfoods and lose 15lbs! But a lb of fat is roughly 3500 calories so every 3500 deficit you get you drop a lb. Max safe weight loss is generally 2lbs a week at 1200 calories minimum (I won't go below 1500). You need something like 10% of those calories to be from fat for your hormones to work right.