Why is anyone here anymore ?

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[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 14 fun8 insightful - 13 fun9 insightful - 14 fun -  (29 children)

I was told I get a free dinner coupon if I sit through a presentation...

[–]oooooooooooooooooooo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

the problem with sites like these forums is that there are too many topics, there are too many videos about too many random topics... there are too many chiefs and not enough indians..

if somebody could figure out how to eliminate the "moderators", and create a system whereby the "indians" could collectively decide what the topics are to be discussed, you would have a winner.

a system that does that will attract users from around the world.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

That's interesting, the usual complaint is that all of these sites just have politics posts.

[–]specialsauces 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

i hang out on these forums, i am not sure why, they really have no value, period... i would be here if i were chatting bots.. i am that bored... i would sit here and chat with paid shills... i am that bored..

if someone wants to make a forum, you have to know how to get rid of the bots and the shills.

yes, they do exist.

in fact, they exists a lot lot lot.

[–]Node 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Let me know if you find or come up with a decent site. Aside from almost no possibility of that happening with the current iteration of the human species, the problem of how to get paid and cover costs is way up there.

Now that the owners and operators of the internet are becoming increasingly enthusiastic about censoring off-narrative information, users, and sites, the days of sites with legitimate interaction are numbered.

[–]specialsauces 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

number one, as far as getting paid goes, i wouldnt use any of the mainstream payment gateways.. instead i would use bitcoin..

bitcoin is going to go thru the roof soon, just watch.. people are becoming afraid of dollars..

i like the idea of running a site on the darkweb... i realize that sounds scary to newbies, but it isnt... you just download tor and then you have to understand that the domain names look a bit weird compared to regular domain names..

i have already setup my basic onion system, i dont have to pay for hosting, i dont have to pay for a domain name.. i do have to pay for my bandwidth for serving up html.. but as far as showing videos that are hosted on youtube or other video streaming services, that doesnt use my bandwidth.. and hey, i am an old school programmer, i wont bloat up my site with massive javascript like fkng parler does.. have you ever seen how parler loads when you first visit http://parler.com ? wtf? that loadup process is entirely not necessary.. it is, i think, loading up a shitton of javascript.

i am serving up this following dot onion page from a $200 windows laptop that is using my android's hotspot for connectivity.

if i can just get my shit organized, you wont believe how simplified i will make it..

http://cjew3ixkcpf7ez6mmy7hro5ezdphdznertlz6ugu5kjrqu2z4y6jsiid.onion

(you need to download TOR from http://torproject.org to visit dot onion url's)

speaking of getting my shit organized, where is miss amelia may?

[–]Node 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

http://cjew3ixkcpf7ez6mmy7hro5ezdphdznertlz6ugu5kjrqu2z4y6jsiid.onion

Is that supposed to all be under construction? Thanks for the Tor link, btw. Haven't used that for years.

As for parler, I auto block cookies and frame on every new site with uMatrix, and only allow the remaining elements from 1st party sites to load. Looks like they have about 10 scripts they load right away.

[–]specialsauces 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

i seem to remember offering my hand to assist in securing down this forum, i made the offer to you, d3rr, but you were snippy and you told me that you had that sht under wraps..

yeah, i see, you obviously have that sht under control, now dont you?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

What, tech help? I'm down. The heat is off now that no one is here, but I'd still be interested in any improvements that can be made. I can't remember the specific conversation that we had but some offers for help have been strange.

[–]specialsauces 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

well, first you need some competent moderation.. truth is, i liked ameliamay, a lot, i thought she was wonderful as a mod..

the first that needs to be done is that the homepage needs to be cleaned...

next, the core functions of this site need to be reworked.

and, the whole site needs to be put up on the darkweb so that nobody can shut it down..

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

So much work for an antique codebase that no one cares about. But if you can form some kind of consensus and multiple people wants changes, I'm down. I think the future looks a lot like Lemmy.

[–]specialsauces 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

this country is in a fucking war right now.. and we are sitting here arguing with foreign paid shills and bots.

this is bullshit.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

How are you going to have anonymous social media without shills and bots? You're not. Pay to play.

[–]specialsauces 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

omg, are you ever wrong about this....

for example, do you remember that bullshit user that used to post all of the "AMERICANS ARE SO BATSHIT CRAZY THAT BLAH BLAH BLAH"...

and everybody just let that shit fly like nothing was wrong with it..

just fyi, that was not a user that was here to communicate with others.. he was, however, here to disrupt and to discourage and confuse.. and he did a wonderful job..

all you would have had to do was to put all new users into a quarantine until others vote to bring him out of quarantine.

you could have done some really simple things to make this forum work better, but you didnt.

and now your site is dead.

and guess what, now is the time when it is needed, not yesterday, not last week, not last month, but now.

[–]specialsauces 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

so now that you have entirely failed at running this site, you would allow me to gather up a consensus, pass it thru you for approval, fuck that shit.

i am not walking behind no snot nosed little bitch like you.

best get that thru your head now.

[–]TheAmeliaManiac 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think that you may have sunk your own chances, and it is clear that you wish to damage the site by posting porn, complaining about the place and promoting your own amateur attempt. I like that you like TheAmeliaMay. she was a mod after my own heart. Clearly putting people in their place, banning the troublemakers and working hard towards site reform.

[–]hennaojichan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You are from a country that invaded Gaza a few days ago.

[–]specialsauces 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

nah, i am down here by arkansas.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not trying to gatekeep, I'm just saying this isn't my site and I can't just willy nilly go changing shit around. I do have mangora's ear if enough people wanted something changed, that's why I always talk about consensus. Your main concerns seem to be policy/political in nature, that's not my department and I opt out of all of that shit.

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    [–]specialsauces 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    you are going to need to be creative to make this site work..

    i keep thinking that the moderation process is slightly broken and not working very well..

    what if, instead of having individual moderators over each sub, what if you had a panel of mods that oversee the entire site.. and maybe they remain silent, a bit like the supreme court, for example..

    i dont know..

    [–]TheAmeliaManiac 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    How about having a number of admins that don't post much, but that keep spam and bots out, and investigate users that use disruptive spam to drive conversations to promote their own darknet websites, then have lower-level sub based mods who keep those places working, with recourse for users to appeal to the (silent) admin layer when the sub mods misbehave?

    Sounds like a fantastic model.

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      [–]TheAmeliaManiac 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      i thought you were 50%. why would you be 25%, there's no need for you to create 10% of the content.