What subs never appear in /all? Is there a list somewhere?

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[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Segregation denied minorities access to common goods and services because of their race. Not being allowed to post on a specific sub isn't denying your freedom of speech rights. It's more like a church not allowing a speaker to advocate for gay marriage at their worship service. "The right not to listen" is pretty fundamental to the freedom of speech.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In other words: it's OK when we do it to others, but not OK when others do it to us.

I had such high hopes that feminists would see that censorship was wrong when it was done to them. But it didn't happen. They are not in favor of free speech; they are only in favor of their own speech.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I never would have considered being able to talk to members within my own sex class about problems that only those within that particular class experience a privilege, not until the past few years due to it no longer socially allowed without consequences. I suppose that feelings of safety are a privilege. Regardless of your feelings on feminism, or whoever's fault that the issues of censorship fall towards, it's not just exclusively feminist women that are being affected by the censorship. Censorship goes deeper than any feminist could ever have the clout to employ, and you're giving it far too much credit for something that's already been woven into place in some way or another since civilizations began. While any individual has the ability to speak or express themselves, there will eternally be another that contemptuously disagrees and demands retribution. This existed long before concepts of feminism.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

it's not just exclusively feminist women that are being affected by the censorship.

And yet they were 100% in favor of it as long as they were the ones censoring. The moment it turned on them, suddenly censorship was evil all along.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Who is this "they"? All women? I feel like I'm misunderstanding something here.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The feminists that who were happy as pigs in shit using censorship to silence disagreement right up until the point that someone used that exact same argument against them and they got censored themselves. Then, suddenly, they discover that free speech is an important right that must never be infringed. They migrate to a free speech site. Then set up a censorship regime just like the one they left.

I find the whole thing very easy to understand. They're not in favor of free speech; only in favor of their own speech. They should be suffering major cognitive dissonance over the whole thing, but they're not, and it's the only explanation that makes sense.