What is to come of future with this moral decline?

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[–]jet199 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

The trick is to have your own personal code and stick to it.

And to develop that code you need to think about what you would do in a morally difficult situation before you get there.

So you need to think about things like "what would you do it your demographic became widely discriminated against?" even if it seems completely unlikely to happen.

Another one which has come up recently is "what would you do if there was a food shortage or a run on the shops?" We had just a hint of lockdown last year and a minority of people went crazy and emptied the supermarkets. A sensible person would already have considered that scenario and added it to their moral code.

There are many such things we should all consider.

It's easy to be good in good times, that's never when personal morality is really important.

[–]PencilPusher55[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

But the issue with this is that, while you're entirely correct - I am speaking of the larger application. In my eyes there is no use in "being an island" as they say in a world that is collapsing. What I am speaking of is an entire redirection of the way we function as people but it seems impossible. You could never reverse any of the things that are now only allowed but ENCOURAGED now because you'd be called a dictator or a fascist.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They've locked down the whole world. They get called fascist but they don't care. A lot of these things only effect good people who decide to care.

Society does often become morally stricter, it didn't just move one way. Look at MeToo, other than the actually criminal stuff most of that was acceptable behaviour 20 years ago, now it's not. Peadophile, again was seen as far less of a big deal than it is now. Hurting people's feelings is becoming close to being against the law in many countries.

I think mostly the movement we have seen is away from condemning things which are damaging for society and towards condemning things which are damaging for individuals. If you can make an argument there are victims being harmed then you can roll back almost any freedom. For instance the right for women to talk about their health and bodies is disappearing purely because a small group find it triggering and threaten suicide. Even when it's nonsense it works.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I am speaking of the larger application. In my eyes there is no use in "being an island" as they say in a world that is collapsing.

Well perhaps you're attitude will change once that collapse gets much closer to home? It's true the entire global empire, which you can plausibly view it as since we all work together on many levels, not the least of which is financial, it's true it's collapsing but that is not anything that hasn't happened before. When the collapse comes it will simply be another in long long list of collapses of complex civilizations, beginning with ancient Egypt all the way up to the collapse of the Maya the Aztec civilizations that were destroyed by the Spanish. We trace our civilized roots back to the Portuguese and Spanish by the way, they were the first of what you could call the western christian empires, a group of empires, one after the other, that are all of the same basic civilization. That is why the Spanish are with us today, and why their nation and customs are basically the same as those in America or Canada.

It's important to make a distinction between Civilizations and Empires. There can be many short lived empires throughout the course of a Civilization's rein, Spain, Britain and America for example. We are rapidly approaching the end of the American empire and that is why you see all the madness. The transition from Empire to Empire is nearly always accompanied by violent upheavals and all out wars. When the civilization as a whole collapses that's another matter all together, it will be total Mad Max, IE: No civilization. There are no fixed to this progression down either, we just have to live through the consequences like the Roman's did, like the Mayan's did.

[–]tomatosplat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay, I'll bite. Finally made time to read your novella. I'm not on board with your NAZI shit, but I will take your opinion, and your speech, and give thought.

[–]tomatosplat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stfu. Sjdubs should be lined up against a wall:

1: dick superglued to belly button 2: shot in balls with frozen paintball