If Google can't be trusted, what information source can I trust?

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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Trust your own brain if you can, your gut instinct, your intuition and your experience. That said wikipedia alternatives exist and should be used, wikipedia is totally corporate controlled. Just look at these two entries, one from https://en.citizendium.org and one wikipedia.

https://en.citizendium.org A chiropractor is a licensed and trained health care professional who performs musculoskeletal manipulations and other therapeutic procedures within the conceptual framework and scope of practice of chiropractic.

wikipedia: Chiropractic is a pseudoscientific complementary and alternative medicine

Systematic reviews of controlled clinical studies of treatments used by chiropractors have not found evidence that chiropractic manipulation is effective... There is not sufficient data to establish the safety of chiropractic manipulations.[11] It is frequently associated with mild to moderate adverse effects, with serious or fatal complications in rare cases.

The whole entry is a fear campaign to warn people off chiropractors yet I have been going to them for 30 years and they, for the most part, are excellent.

Now go look at their entries on MD directed medicine and you'll find glowing reports. They are Whores over on wikipedia, corporate shills!

[–]StrategicTactic 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

While I agree with your core point, I disagree with your assessment of chiropractic treatments.

Wikipedia has some major flaws with revisionism and how it treats opinion in general. It still can be useful, particularly when you can get to their sources.

As far as chiropractors, my brother has his master's degree in software engineering. He received a license for massage from a 6 hour course. A great number of people confuse the two, and some massage therapists even encourage this.

To me, the test of a valid system is its output. What would be the output from a chiropractor? To live free of pain from previous injuries without needing further treatment. Does the session result in a lack of pain? Usually. Are more treatments required? I have yet to hear of someone who has NOT needed to go back. Thus, this has to me the same effectiveness as opiates. It will likely work, but I hope you can afford them forever.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

To me, the test of a valid system is its output. What would be the output from a chiropractor? To live free of pain from previous injuries without needing further treatment.

Well that opinion is meaningless. If you have diabetes do you get a single treatment? If you go to the dentist for a filling at age 21 is that tooth now sound and you're done with the dentist for life? If you take your car in for a service do you never take it again? We are talking about injury, usually significant, to a dynamic system, the human body.

As for the "affording them forever" meme, that's as ridiculous a statement as I have ever heard. Most people I know visit doctors and dentists "forever" and buy smartphones "forever" and buy food, "forever" What is it about chiropractic services that make ill-informed people expect a Miracle to occur...

[–]StrategicTactic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well that opinion is meaningless. If you have diabetes do you get a single treatment? If you go to the dentist for a filling at age 21 is that tooth now sound and you're done with the dentist for life? If you take your car in for a service do you never take it again? We are talking about injury, usually significant, to a dynamic system, the human body.

As for the "affording them forever" meme, that's as ridiculous a statement as I have ever heard. Most people I know visit doctors and dentists "forever" and buy smartphones "forever" and buy food, "forever" What is it about chiropractic services that make ill-informed people expect a Miracle to occur...

Keep attacking that strawman! You can hit it forever! A system that is set to run forever on one input is stalled. When you get new input, it should have a valid output. Each injury would need you to use a system to analyze it (is it something I can resolve myself?) and then a separate system for the fix (bandaid? Surgery? Drug regimen?). It is the same with dentists- a test to determine if the system has faults, followed by corrective action.

Just to flip your meaningless opinion on its head, imagine systems that run forever on one input. The blue screen of death comes to mind. Perpetual motion machines perhaps? In programming, a program that runs forever is in an infinite loop, which is a beginner mistake.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just to flip your meaningless opinion on its head, imagine systems that run forever on one input. Perpetual motion machines perhaps? In programming, a program that runs forever is in an infinite loop

Oh, you are computer nut, I get it. Someone living in a computer screen with no experience in the real world. Well I'll leave you with your perpetual motion machine. Have a lovely day.

[–]StrategicTactic 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The fact you think someone who is "a computer nut" could have no experience in the real world says far more about you than me. Good day.