Why are European men so effeminate?

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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Since you clearly didn't have a father figure in your life, I'll have to try and patch the hole a bit. Men don't have to go around unclean, unshaven, and brawling, in order to be men. On the contrary, men can be both noble and strong, stoic and brave, without acting or looking like trailer trash rednecks from your favorite NASCAR stadium. I don't know what you consider "acting like" a woman to be, but I've rarely seen that except when it truly is an act. More likely, you just have fucked up ideas of what being manly is. And this from someone who probably fulfills your fucked up ideas of "masculinity" better than you do in most respects.

[–]Chipit 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

without acting or looking like trailer trash rednecks from your favorite NASCAR stadium.

Ooo, nice placement of the bigoted classist insult. You go! You show those deplorable morons in the outgroup who's boss! Punch down on the poor! Speak truth to the powerless!

[–]PencilPusher55[S] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Okay Girlfriend.

[–]Comatoast 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Sheesh. Shitting on rednecks is truly something. Redneck men, in my experience, are there with Natty Ice in hand ready to take on home and/or vehichle repairs or do what it takes to help out a friend. They're industrious and genuine, meanwhile the entire world has a superiority complex against them. Yeah, you've got your pieces of shit, but those are in every group.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Certainly. I do not mean to broadly declare them as somehow subhuman, only that it's a particular and extremely narrow culture that hardly applies to everyone. I grew up in that culture, though for privacy reasons I won't list specifics. I still remember when the drink of choice was Pabst, the hell is Natty Ice? Damn times change.

Hopefully with the clarification you can see my point for what it is. Not a jab at rednecks per se, but ignorant types who think men are only manly if they're a certain specific way. I do not mean a certain way as in virtues men ought to hold, or tend to hold, like stoicism and things biologically men tend to exhibit. I mean in their cultural expression of these. Does this make sense?

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Natural Ice. You don't remember Natural beer? It's extremely cheap, so a beer worthy of the functional alcoholic.

It makes perfect sense. Thanks for the clarity.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Like I said in my day it was all Pabst, which is frankly IMO the best tasting bottom-floor cheap as shit beer. And I think I've tried every beer BUT the one you're talking about.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I forgot what your name was before s/basghetti, until I came across this old reported comment.

[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

We really don't need the tranny perspective, thanks girlfriend