People who believe in a coming "collapse" - when do you expect it to happen, and how?

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[–]Antifa 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

Collapse of the Roman empire wasn't a cataclysmic event, it was a slow decline.

What we're experiencing here globally is the devolution from Roman to Byzantine.

The preppers are deluded. We will all adapt, we will all survive. All of us however will experience this decline.

We'll all need to stand tall and together. None can stop it, but together we can ensure we don't find ourselves crushed beneath history.

Storing dry goods and canned food isn't wisdom it's cowardice.

[–]Aureus[S] 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think storing dry goods and canned food is wrong. It can even be smart if you're saving money and preparing for a rainy day.

My issue is with preppers who expect a cataclysmic event to happen "any day now" and make no effort to create a life for themselves outside of that. At the very least, you should be starting a family and involving yourself in a community.

I agree that we are looking more at a slow decline rather than a sudden fall. Because of that, people should be improving themselves and their communities, and strengthening the next generation, rather than expecting everything to collapse overnight.

[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

What about being prepared for natural disasters?

[–]Antifa 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

In that context, I concede it's a prudent move.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Every prepper I know of IRL are prepping for natural disasters.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Especially that they are nowadays, planned, organized and created on purpose.

[–]whistlepig 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

The preppers are deluded.

That is a mighty disparate group that you are generalizing about. I assume you're talking about the one's who only plan for meteors and emp attacks?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

EMP attacks are planned.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

EMPs are NOTHING like they are in movies.

They are not tiny local events (ie. superpowers, within a building, a city block, or a city).

A disruptive EMP requires MASSIVE amounts of gamma rays from a solar flare, cosmic event, or a high atmospheric nuke and will cover a good portion of a continent. A nuke in the atmosphere over Mount Everest might knock out much of India AND China and completely destroy their infrastructure MUCH worse than the US is suffering now. Billions would starve and die and rebuilding their system would be very troublesome. I'm guessing, like the USA, they've also got a hardened infrastructure for their military and leadership to continue their control in the chaos - and of course could strike back.

I'm curious what it would do to satellites and space-stations, from near to far - or if it might be like a grenade in water (far more deadly than in air - if you're in the same medium). I'm guessing much less problematic than anything in the diffusing atmosphere - so the gamma rays would act like the light inverse square law and become much less critical the further away.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, and?

Yeah I think it would take out a lot of satellites. I dunno, satellites don't need much shielding since mostly they're within the magnetic field. There might be very high orbit one that might use massive amounts though, who knows.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I been drinky. I've also been writing a hard-sci-fi story and I've considered adding a little EMP action just to add some unnecessary edutainment drama. There's already too much for the screenplay, but it could be good extra material for the novelization.

Imagine being on a space station and an EMP takes out all the electrics. Ruh-roh. Then, either you die or find a solution. I don't have a solution. So it's interesting, but not outstanding.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I don't have one either.

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    [–]72ndGender 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Well don't advertise your assets. And definitely be ready to kill anyone that comes knocking. Also a good idea to build a network in your neighborhood, so that everyone can help protect eachother.

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      [–]72ndGender 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Seriously. It's like they want to be robbed.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Not if you violence-proof your soul.

      [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Rome to Byzantine....

      Unilateralism to multilateralism = BRIC world order.