Why do Redditors make fun of the 'security theatre' of the TSA but lose their shit over people not wearing a thin piece of cloth over their face?

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[–]King_Brutus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sigh. For one, why would you compare COVID deaths vs the total new york population instead of COVID deaths vs people INFECTED WITH COVID. That doesn't make sense.

Second, using your own website that you linked me the seasonal flu mortality rate is less than 0.1%, while COVID sits at 2%.

To the article's credit, we can't technically know the fatality rate in the middle of a pandemic, but I think there's good enough information to take reasonable precautions for the sake of safety.

And how does a comorbidity in any way take away the danger of the disease? Underlying health conditions don't suddenly make diseases less dangerous, they just make it more dangerous to people with underlying diseases.

Is it going to kill everyone? No, but the point is A) to not overwhelm hospital systems and B) to protect vulnerable populations which have a particular weakness to any easily spread disease.

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

For one, why would you compare COVID deaths vs the total new york population instead of COVID deaths vs people INFECTED WITH COVID

This is common procedure for medical research to calculate 'probability of dying', individuals per 100,000.

seasonal flu mortality rate is less than 0.1%, while COVID sits at 2%.

You missed the point of the links. The 2% figure represents previous deaths for Covid which was older data, before more recent revelations. Where it is now becoming more apparent, that partly because of incompetence and partly because hospitals were provided financial incentive to lie about Covid infections, they then grossly inflated reported infections. False positives, co-morbidity...diagnosing people with seasonal influenza as having covid instead....etc..etc...

And how does a comorbidity in any way take away the danger of the disease? Underlying health conditions don't suddenly make diseases less dangerous, they just make it more dangerous to people with underlying diseases.

Because it's mostly dangerous to people with underlying conditions, elderly, immunocompromised. Not the general reasonably healthy population. Its no more dangerous than the seasonal flu. These amounts of deaths now being reported by over-sensationalized media because of covid, has been happening every year from common influenza your whole life. No one cared, no one notice, nothing reported. But, now...for some reason....it's media spotlight.

Is it going to kill everyone? No, but the point is A) to not overwhelm hospital systems and B) to protect vulnerable populations which have a particular weakness to any easily spread disease.

If someone is vulnerable they should stay at home quarantined with a mask on.

I think there's good enough information to take reasonable precautions for the sake of safety.

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

― Samuel Adams

Put your muzzle on slave.

[–]King_Brutus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

At BEST, your article says it's too early to determine an accurate case fatality rate.

Case per 100k and case fatality rate are two separate things. From your own article again: The case fatality rate (CFR) represents the proportion of cases who eventually die from a disease.

And you do understand that a large part of the population is either A) has underlying conditions B) is elderly? Not everyone is the pinnacle of health. You keep saying it's no more dangerous than the flu but there is no evidence to support that and all evidence SO FAR to support that it has a higher case fatality rate than the flu. Case fatality rates according to Johns Hopkins using RECENT DATA (not from early spring at the beginning of the pandemic like a lot of your information is) indicate that it can range from 1.4% in South Africa all the way up to 15% in the UK. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

Your civil liberties aren't being trampled because you have to wear a mask to the grocery store dude.

[–]Zahn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And you do understand that a large part of the population is either A) has underlying conditions B) is elderly? Not everyone is the pinnacle of health.

If you're immunocompromised or elderly then you are at risk, just like with seasonal influenza. To the vast majority of everyone else it's no more than a common bad cold.

Case fatality....indicate that it can range from 1.4% in South Africa all the way up to 15% in the UK

Kind of strange to have such a wide discrepancy, right? Being an in-congruent data point means that theres something "off" about the reporting. Once again you missed the point. The mainstream numbers are greatly over inflated old information. Look at any state with these inflated numbers, and you're now staring to see that cracks in the narrative are forming that indicate a wide margin of false reports.

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/07/14/fox-35-investigation-reveals-inflated-florida-covid-19-numbers/

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/11/doctor-deborah-birx-coronavirus-covid-19-death-toll-inflated-numbers-cases-cdc-white-house-meeting-report/

https://www.weny.com/story/42038259/several-pa-coroners-cite-discrepancies-state-reporting-of-covid-19-deaths

etc....etc....etc....

Your civil liberties aren't being trampled because you have to wear a mask to the grocery store dude.

Slippery slope...dude....when your rights can be indefinitely suspended, conditioning you to accept your submission. Wearing burkas, scarlet letter A, social scoring system, vaxx certificates....You should never compromise on your civil rights, as a citizen it's all that you've got. If this weak virus was as bad as they say, you wouldn't have to convince people to wear a mask.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Since the gov originally said, masks don't work,then said they do, and now we know non N95 masks don't work at all. What is the actual point of forcing you to wear a muzzle, if they are aware of this fact?

So of ALL the people you personally know that have had Covid, what do they say about it's severity?