Why do Redditors make fun of the 'security theatre' of the TSA but lose their shit over people not wearing a thin piece of cloth over their face?

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[–]wuzizname 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

What if you were told you had to put three red dots on your cheek everyday to get served in stores even though you absolutely know the three red dots don’t protect you from shit?

A lot of people reject masks because they were flat out told by Fauci himself not so long ago that cloth masks don’t do shit because they don’t do shit. Viruses exist at the nano level, billionths of level, your cloth mask your niece sewed for you using old tee shirts wouldn’t filter out flour or wood dust let alone viruses.

So it’s really a lesson in the absurd - will people follow government advice and rules despite having access to evidence to the contrary? Can the government punish people for not complying even though it can be proven that these masks are not effectual barriers against covid? And the answer seems to be.... yes.

I’m not an anti masker. I wear a mask but I can understand the argument. I’m pretty convinced at this point in time, after spending a lot of time looking at the data myself and following it very closely, that Covid is not nearly as deadly as we and our leaders were lead to believe. The numbers are there, and Covid is tracking to be nowhere near the 9-10% mortality we were initially told, it’s looking to settle somewhere between 1-3% which puts it on par with SARS. I don’t blame our leaders for their initial reaction because if covid had ended up being more like it’s bad brother MERS which has a mortality rate of like 30-35% then we would’ve really been in the shit. But now that the evidence exists, compiled by countries that are not China who obviously used the virus to terrify the world into distraction while they used the distraction to occupy Hong Kong and buy up global assets on the cheap... now that the evidence exists our leaders should be working more and getting people back to living normal lives.

My 2 cents.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Masks were never designed to stop the viral particles, they are there to block a percentage of droplets that leave your mouth/nose which carry the viruses. Since COVID19 severity is heavily influenced by how much viral load you take in, this can mean life or death. So I don't think this-

What if you were told you had to put three red dots on your cheek everyday to get served in stores even though you absolutely know the three red dots don’t protect you from shit?

-is a reasonable analogy because I think there is some good evidence that masks offer some degree of protection even if it isn't anywhere close to absolute. Remember, people have been wearing masks in public in countries like India and China for decades now because of low air quality and population density- this isn't a new trend that cropped up overnight.

You're post is certainly reasonable though. And it's 100% clear that China took advantage of this whole situation nefariously and I would go even further and suggest that they are subversively scare mongering more (via social media propaganda, bots, business deals, etc) to get their economy ahead further. But I also think the data clearly shows that this virus hates old people and fat fucks and while China might not give a flying fuck about their vulnerable, we in the Western world do and have to make sacrifices for our elders.

[–]ChingChongdingdong 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If you think masks help go shot yourself

[–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree with everything you say, but the mortality rate is likely below one percent...

[–]wuzizname 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Probably when all is said and done. There was a spate of bad flu cases in January. Half the people I work with took time off because of catching some “weird bug” that was going around after Christmas. And unless or until we test people for antibodies that never experienced any bad symptoms we won’t know for sure. Politicians keep talking about life not going back to normal until there’s a viable vaccine and that kind of talk drives me nuts because I’m sure that there are a lot of people that are already immune and viable vaccines won’t be readily available for years, possibly never as there is no vaccine for SARS or MERS.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Talks about mortality are all a little misleading tbh.

COVID19 appears to be much less harmful than influenza among healthy youth. What ends up happening is that media propagate freak outlier stories about a 18yo dying from COVID as if it is normal when the reality is that- 1) The victim was morbidly obese or 2) Freak complications arose which happens with every disease including influenza.

COVID has skewed mortality. It badly fucks up the elderly and the very fat which is unfortunately a large part of the States.

[–]wuzizname 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. If you read deep enough into the story you often find that the younger victims, and even a lot of the more elderly, had diabetes or cancer or other serious issues already.