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[–]Zero_1 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

July 4th sounds lile july 5th or 6th. It's not special at all. 4th of july indicates its a special occasion.

[–]teelo[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Do you say "25th of December" for christmas day?

[–]theFriendlyDoomer 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Only if we add the article "the" to it. After all, we've heard "remember, remember, the 5th of November."

In practice, since we have Christmas and Christmas Eve, and there is only one of each, we would probably never have need to say it. With that said, I'm pretty sure you don't say "the Christmas" unless it needs to move into the adjective slot with something like "I love that I get off for the Christmas Holiday."

[–]teelo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But you don't say "the independence day" either.

[–]theFriendlyDoomer 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right, just like we don't say "the Christmas." It becomes a proper noun.

Whereas if we moved stuff around "the day of independence" would be required.