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[–]Only71Genders 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No specific title for myself. I don't believe any intelligent being created the human species, but I absolutely don't KNOW this. Anyone claiming they know this is lying as much as anyone claiming to KNOW their God exists is lying. We can have beliefs and faith. That's about it.

Some people place blind faith in science and "scientists" and other place blind faith in religion and the religion's leaders. Dr. Feynman had an interesting quote about how a vast majority of scientists are wrong, and it reminds me of the faith people place in religion as well. With all that being said, I think most modern religions have a good message, overall, and clearly helped make our species successful.

And here's some concepts I find interesting: if God turned out to be an alien race that created life on Earth, would it still be God? And if the big bang created the universe, what created that? What was before that, and what created that? If it was God, then what created God? If the universe just magically materialized, what/who allowed it to happen? Laws of physics say that matter cannot just be created from nothing (I'm oversimplifying) so are we saying that an exception to a fundamental law is what created existence? If not, then the matter existed and something/someone had to have created it.

Anyways, rant over. TL;DR no one knows. They just have a belief system that they have faith in. Except agnostics. Those are just honest people that admit they don't know wtf is going on.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Hold on, if I believe in something and tell you so, am I not honest with you?

[–]Only71Genders 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If I said that, it wasn't intentional. I specified that people have beliefs and faith. People saying that they know (as in, for a fact) something in this context are not being honest. Not necessarily maliciously, but literally no one on this planet actually knows any of this. I mean, unless they ARE God, and then I would ask them who or what created them. Then back to square one. Sorry if I wasn't clear in my rambling.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Alright. But I think there is a difference between knowing there is no god and knowing there is no god known by mankind because that's what I believe, of course I can't know if something is false if it's unflasifiable but I can analyse human history and it's patterns, how different cultures created their unique gods in isolation. To me that proves that this is a game of manipulation to control the people.

[–]Only71Genders 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I completely agree with the distinction you made.

[–]Tiwaking 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This already exists. Theistic Agnosticism and Non-Theistic Agnosticism.

If you believe that a Deity exists, but it is totally unknowable and unprovable then that is Deism. Deism is pretty cool. It lets you analyze different gods without having to believe they exist as they have been described. For example: Maybe Zeus and Wotan are the same guy. Or perhaps Huangdi wasnt Chinese at all.