Ukraine military drafts civilian with no hands!

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[–]brimshae 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It's a human right. Doesn't mean the law's right. The law's wrong on a lot of things.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Oh you think everyone who doesn't want to obey some regulation or pay some land tax should be able to declare themselves independent?

[–]brimshae 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If they can get away with it...

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So it's only a human right if they can get away with it?

[–]brimshae 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Please explain how you came to that conclusion based on what we've said here.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You've said that "self determination" is a human right.

You've implied that that means declaring independence from your country.

But you've said people should only be able to do that if they can get away with it.

What's the difficulty you're having here?

[–]brimshae 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You've said that "self determination" is a human right.

It is.

You've implied that that means declaring independence from your country.

Negative. I did not. I simply said the law can be wrong. You're welcome to say that the law is never wrong.

But you've said people should only be able to do that if they can get away with it.

Well, yes. Even if one's right are being trampled on being murdered or incarcerated by those doing the trampling is not terribly productive.

What's the difficulty you're having here?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. I think you may be jumping to conclusions.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You've implied that that means declaring independence from your country.

Negative. I did not. I simply said the law can be wrong. You're welcome to say that the law is never wrong.

So when you say secession is a human right, BTW, what did you mean secession from is a human right?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. I think you may be jumping to conclusions.

You said secession was a human right. We were talking about the Ukraine war. I didn't jump. I took a small to normal-sized step and there conclusions were.