This is why you can't say all lives matter

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[–]Site_rly_sux 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It only serves Putin to hype up his terrorist threats. So it's not at all surprising that most of his hypemen are on this Q-adjacaent conspiracy forum, rather than normal communities

[–]hfxB0oyA[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Call me old fashioned, but I like it when my chances of dying in a nuclear explosion are in the 0% range.

[–]Site_rly_sux 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Good, then you'll join the anti-Putin alliance, because stopping him is the best way of bringing that number back to zero.

Answer me this. If his nuclear terrorism is rewarded with territory. Do you think the number will go back to zero, or will it remain high for years to come?

[–]hfxB0oyA[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

And here you were accusing me below of binary thinking...

NATO member states are all volunteer armies. Feel free to sign up if you feel so strongly about it.

[–]Site_rly_sux 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

in the 0% range.

If his nuclear terrorism is rewarded with territory. Do you think the number will go back to zero, or will it remain high for years to come? What's your proposal for keeping the number close to zero? Mine is - we should ensure that Ukraine wins. What's yours?

[–]hfxB0oyA[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Negotiations worked 100% of time during the cold war. Both of these assholes need to get to the table, now.

[–]Site_rly_sux 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah so, you're thinking that Putin is sure to give up his illegal holdings in negotiations at a proper official table. It's just that nobody has tried to negotiate at a table with him. Is that your view?

Because you're wrong, in Belarus in March and Turkey in April and all around central Asia in August and September, Putin was taken to a negotiating table and asked to give up his illegal holdings. He declined and instead conscripted a million new soldiers.

So what now? Should we reward his nuclear terrorism by allowing him to keep his illegal holdings? Is that your recommendation now that I've disabsued you of the incorrect notion that, nobody has sat him down at a proper official table.

So taking your argument that one step further - we've met him at the table, and rewarded his nuclear terrorism by letting him keep some illegal holdings. Has the world tension gone to zero? Have nascent nuclear powers like Iran and Saudi and North Korea learned a good lesson: that you had better behave, or you'll get taken to a table where you can name any price.

Is that the world you want to live in.